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Old 03-17-2007, 11:45 PM
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Can't Start Graal (Ubuntu Edgy)
I've been having problems starting Graal on my Laptop. Hopefully I can give enough information for this report to be useful.

Running 'graal' I get this message
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libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
Direct Rendering is enabled, Graal should run smoothly.
Processor Init:
   Intel (unknown, Pentium Pro/II/III family)
   FPU detected
   MMX detected
   SSE detected

data directory: /usr/share/graal/
user data directory: /home/falados/.graal/graal4/
The license file is invalid.
Running 'graalexe' I get this error:
HTML Code:
libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
Direct Rendering is enabled, Graal should run smoothly.
Processor Init:
   Intel (unknown, Pentium Pro/II/III family)
   FPU detected
   MMX detected
   SSE detected

data directory: /usr/share/graal/
user data directory: /home/falados/.graal/graal4/
Scanning folder structure of /usr/share/graal/...
Scanning folder structure of /home/falados/.graal/graal4/...
Done.
Activating the OpenGL display device (1)...
Setting screen mode to 640x480x32 (w)...
Illegal instruction

My hardware specs: (HP Pavilion dv1000 Laptop)
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00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev d3)
00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
06:06.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
06:09.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller
06:09.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
06:09.3 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller
06:09.4 Class 0805: Texas Instruments PCI6411, PCI6421, PCI6611, PCI6621, PCI7411, PCI7421, PCI7611, PCI7621 Secure Digital (SD) Controller
Kernel:
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Linux avarice 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
And my graphics card information (glxinfo)
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name of display: :0.0
libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, 
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method, 
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, 
    GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, 
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, 
    GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, 
    GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, 
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, 
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, 
    GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
GLX version: 1.2
GLX extensions:
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, 
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, 
    GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, 
    GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, 
    GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM 20050225
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.1
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_ARB_imaging, 
    GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_point_parameters, 
    GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, 
    GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, 
    GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, 
    GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, 
    GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, 
    GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, 
    GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, 
    GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, 
    GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_cull_vertex, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, 
    GL_EXT_convolution, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, 
    GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, 
    GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_polygon_offset, 
    GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, 
    GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, 
    GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, 
    GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, 
    GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, 
    GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, 
    GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, 
    GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1, GL_APPLE_client_storage, 
    GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate, 
    GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, 
    GL_INGR_blend_func_separate, GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, 
    GL_MESA_window_pos, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_light_max_exponent, 
    GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_vertex_program, 
    GL_NV_vertex_program1_1, GL_OES_read_format, GL_SGI_color_matrix, 
    GL_SGI_color_table, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, 
    GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIX_depth_texture, 
    GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
    GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
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0x23 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x24 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x25 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x26 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x27 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x28 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x29 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x2a 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x2b 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x2c 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x2d 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x2e 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x2f 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x30 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x31 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x32 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x5b 32 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 Ncon
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:56 PM
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I can only assume that its failing when setting the screen mode. disable that in the graal config, or perhaps you have older 3d that only works in 16 bit mode or SOMETHING.

try turning direct rendering off and see if graal starts.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:57 PM
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try turning direct rendering off and see if graal starts.
Turn direct rendering off and Graal probably will fail to start, or it will run very very slowly in software rendering mode.
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Old 03-18-2007, 12:03 AM
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I can only assume that its failing when setting the screen mode. disable that in the graal config, or perhaps you have older 3d that only works in 16 bit mode or SOMETHING.

try turning direct rendering off and see if graal starts.
Unfortunately, Graal doesn't write a skeleton config file or anything, so I don't know where or which options I can edit. I doubt it has anything to do with DRI being enabled. Plus I have Edgy on another machine (With an ATI Radeon 7500) and it runs fine with DRI (in 24bit).
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Old 03-18-2007, 12:04 AM
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Unfortunately, Graal doesn't write a skeleton config file or anything, so I don't know where or which options I can edit. I doubt it has anything to do with DRI being enabled. Plus I have Edgy on another machine (With an ATI Radeon 7500) and it runs fine with DRI.
There should be a graal4config.txt somewhere (there is on Mac, probably in the Graal folder or ~/.graal/graal4); not sure if there's an option in there to control display modes.

Also do you know which driver you are using, and could you post your Xorg.conf? It is probably in /etc/X11/.
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Old 03-18-2007, 12:07 AM
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There should be a graal4config.txt somewhere (there is on Mac, probably in the Graal folder or ~/.graal/graal4); not sure if there's an option in there to control display modes.
Nope, no files there. If you have some config file I can have maybe I'll try tweaking the options.
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Old 03-18-2007, 12:10 AM
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This is what is in ~/.graal/graal4/graal4config.txt for me on Mac:
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waitvertical=false
reversestereo=false
midivolume=0
mp3volume=0
radiovolume=0
voicevolume=0
sfxvolume=0
microactivationlevel=50
microvolumefactor=64
microon=false
microactivatebyvolume=1
microinputdevice=0
voicecodec=-1
dontsavepms=false
language=English
font=Helvetica
fontsize=16
lighteffectsenabled=true
weathereffectsenabled=true
particleeffectsenabled=true
fixedport=true
fixedudpport=14899
noudp=true
nomassmessages=true
limitnicknames=true
nicknamelimit=30
dontconnectlevels=false
notoalls=true
loadbuddiesfromserver=true
globalpms=true
buddytracking=false
dontsavepasswords=false
automapping=true
windowmode=908x621
fullscreenmode=1024x768
screenshotformat=PNG
visibledistance3D=200
fogdistance3D=170
detailfactor3D=1
truetypefonts=true
lock3Darrays=true
cachefilenames=false
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Old 03-18-2007, 12:16 AM
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Thank you. I have a lot of options to tweak ,but it seems that the ones I suspected don't do anything. I changed the window mode resolutions, however, they still didn't fix the segmentation fault.
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Hmmm "glxgears" is working fine?

Update: You might need to install the package xserver-xorg-video-intel . Both i810 and intel driver support DRI, but the (open source) one from intel is more up-to-date. Not sure if it really helps though, but it seems your driver is quite old (more than 2 years old).
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Old 03-18-2007, 07:33 AM
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Hmmm "glxgears" is working fine?

Update: You might need to install the package xserver-xorg-video-intel . Both i810 and intel driver support DRI, but the (open source) one from intel is more up-to-date. Not sure if it really helps though, but it seems your driver is quite old (more than 2 years old).
Tried the intel one. the change made my mouse cursor invisible, and graal still won't run (Same errors)
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Hmmm you could try:
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Old 03-19-2007, 05:05 AM
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Hmmm you could try:
truetypefonts=false
It actually was already on false, I switched it to true just so I could see what the change would be, however it again didn't affect the situation.

One thing I did notice is that the 'Illegal Instruction' message has changed to 'Segmentation Fault' but not because I changed any options... It's very weird..

I've also reinstalled Ubuntu Edgy before just to see if it would affect the error, but it won't run on a fresh install either.
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Hmmm glxgears is working?
Eventually it is also a problem with the bit depth of your desktop, changing to 24 bit or 16 bit might help.
It seems to crash in SDL_SetVideoMode. I have already made some code for replacing the SDL calls, with that code it would be easier to detect where the error lies (if its still happening). It doesn't support full screen yet, but it could be made optionable.
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Changing my bit depth from 24 to 16 didn't make it work, however I have a new error now.
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Direct Rendering is enabled, Graal should run smoothly.
Processor Init:
   Intel (unknown, Pentium Pro/II/III family)
   FPU detected
   MMX detected
   SSE detected

data directory: /usr/share/graal/
user data directory: /home/falados/.graal/graal4/
Scanning folder structure of /usr/share/graal/...
Scanning folder structure of /home/falados/.graal/graal4/...
Done.
Activating the OpenGL display device (1)...
Setting screen mode to 640x480x16 (w)...
Floating point exception
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Don't know what can be the error. Eventually it is a problem with SDL, but since I am not sure I don't want to blame them. It could be possible in the next version to have a special video mode (like I have described) which directly accesses XWindows and OpenGL and print more debug info. Until then I cannot help you.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:38 AM
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Don't know what can be the error. Eventually it is a problem with SDL, but since I am not sure I don't want to blame them. It could be possible in the next version to have a special video mode (like I have described) which directly accesses XWindows and OpenGL and print more debug info. Until then I cannot help you.
Alright, well then in the next version, I'll print out the debug-info I get so that this bug can be solved. Thanks anyway.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:36 PM
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floating point refers to a 3D part in your Video card. Are you sure you have the most up-to-date video drivers for your linux? Or I might think of updating your X system components.

in your GLXinfo theres this too btw
? libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
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