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Old 02-04-2007, 08:34 PM
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How will the economy be improved?

Well, after I seen that my ideas about rescueing the economy are not welcome and/or accepted, iam interrested in seeing the ideas of the other side how to fix up economy and making the game more fair for new players, without using resets or anything.

What is the plan of the staff?
I heard of a fighting system, but I haven't seen real specifications of it and how it will improve the game, at all.


Iam really seeing forward to good answers.

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Old 02-04-2007, 08:38 PM
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What was your idea? I didn't see it.
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Old 02-04-2007, 08:41 PM
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The economy is pretty good. Super-super-high-class items aren't really a big part of the economy, and that seems to be what you're really worried about. If you want to do something about those, just have items like RDA and BDA made craftable event items at a cost of around 100 ECs.
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What was your idea? I didn't see it.
Item/Moneyreset to give the plat back its original value.
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Old 02-04-2007, 08:45 PM
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The economy is pretty good. Super-super-high-class items aren't really a big part of the economy, and that seems to be what you're really worried about. If you want to do something about those, just have items like RDA and BDA made craftable event items at a cost of around 100 ECs.
The economy is pretty good?
If you ignore that that people have enough plats to just spawn hours of hours in shops, buying random stuff until good rings/spells appear.
Thats pretty good?
Then id LOVE to see whats pretty bad in your point of view.
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Old 02-04-2007, 08:48 PM
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The economy is pretty good?
If you ignore that that people have enough plats to just spawn hours of hours in shops, buying random stuff until good rings/spells appear.
Thats pretty good?
You keep saying this, and I keep not seeing any of the consequences that should occur if what you say is true. If people are endlessly spawning shops, how come the market isn't getting flooded with RoWs/RoEs/other expensive rings?
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Old 02-04-2007, 09:07 PM
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I think there have been messages about people hoarding those rings, even one year ago already, when RoW where a currency above diamonds. (I cant renember the exchange rate, 500 dias = 1 row?!)
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Old 02-04-2007, 09:46 PM
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RoW has been at 500 diamonds since alchemy. You're like a year or two behind the change. Before alchemy, they were usually 300, but that's when diamonds used to be 300 as well.

Also, resetting will not give platinum and diamonds their original value back. Right now, 500 plat per diamond is ideal, mainly because it is easy to calculate. If you want to buy a gold key, it's 20 diamonds or 10,000 plat. With the price of diamonds set as what it is now, nearly everything has a stable price, rather than an estimated one. (Except rare items, but as much as you whine, their values will always be up to the seller's discretion.)
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Old 02-04-2007, 09:55 PM
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I think there have been messages about people hoarding those rings
So what you're saying is that people are spending huge amounts of plat spawning rings, and then doing nothing with them?
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:07 PM
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There's a big hole in your theory:

There's no point in hoarding rings after you have two.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:48 PM
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Well it seems to be getting on track. Few new ppl over paying for dias but nothing big. Event Coins have went up in price though.
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Old 02-05-2007, 12:30 AM
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RoW has been at 500 diamonds since alchemy. You're like a year or two behind the change. Before alchemy, they were usually 300, but that's when diamonds used to be 300 as well.

Also, resetting will not give platinum and diamonds their original value back. Right now, 500 plat per diamond is ideal, mainly because it is easy to calculate. If you want to buy a gold key, it's 20 diamonds or 10,000 plat. With the price of diamonds set as what it is now, nearly everything has a stable price, rather than an estimated one. (Except rare items, but as much as you whine, their values will always be up to the seller's discretion.)
Well maybe you ARE right, but you have to admit that it take quite some time as startup to collect money to buy items.
I renember back then when a dwarven warhammer was like 20k when they were unicates.
A reasonable amount to gain without haxor.
How to get 100 diamonds = 500*100 = 50000 plat for a ID?
Youd spend a long time in dungeon.
Or mining to get diamonds, i forgot. And thats tough if you have no gear to start killing trex with.
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Old 02-05-2007, 12:53 AM
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plats pretty useless anyways outside of shops, no one wants plat in trades, so you have to find somebody to trade for diamonds, and unless you know who to go to, chances are that could take awhile.

ive been trying to trade in my plat for weeks, and i finally got my 50 dia
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:19 AM
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Well maybe you ARE right, but you have to admit that it take quite some time as startup to collect money to buy items.
That was the biggest problem I ran into when I started on Graal Kingdoms. I had a pal, Legobomb, who would do everything the hard way - he would harvest his own stuff, he would find his own diamonds, etc.

I learned that playing the markets was quicker and more interesting than what the game play actually had to offer.
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:06 AM
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Youd spend a long time in dungeon.
Or mining to get diamonds, i forgot. And thats tough if you have no gear to start killing trex with.
Killing T-Rexes isn't really a gear issue. Sure, a newbie could kill them with Marks+12 and a bunch of EA'd gear, but it's more reasonable to level up until you can fight them - which is where your focus should be when you first start out.
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