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I think this is the most important priority. 8 34.78%
No, advertising should come first. We can keep players here with what we've got. 3 13.04%
No, skinnable clients should come first. Server independance will make them strong. 0 0%
No, we need to focus on money. Pay the developers a cut of the profits from expansion packs. 0 0%
First we need to shake up the admins to keep the website updated! Fanart contests and stuff! 3 13.04%
We should do something about the subscriptions first. 1 4.35%
We need a better gold server first, focus on that. 4 17.39%
Someone needs to crack down on corrupt mods first! 1 4.35%
Why make a hubworld? Make a newbie world with tutorial-quests, like Old Classic, and make it Trial. 3 13.04%
What's more important is this: (please post your ideas) 0 0%
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:55 PM
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Hubworld: Ideas to help Graal

My ideas are getting buried in the Lifetime Classic thread, so I'll start a few new ones.

Hubworld
Purpose: make a single common-server where players can congregate, foster a sense of community lacking since the advent of the server list.
Options: Replace the server list altogether, place at the top of the serverlist/as default server
Expansion: Perfect place to host/organize the Global Quest
Requires: Stefan to give us Global Strings, a stable System NPC donated from an existing server, the cooperation of participating servers' admins.

Basically, instead of just going to a world via the ServerList, you warp back to the Graal Hubworld - maybe it's a space station, maybe it's a mystical village deep in a forest, maybe it's a town, maybe it's all inside a pub, these things are debatable. The key feature is a series of warp gates - ideally, a different one for each server. Classic's warpgate would be the standard water-swirl, probably with some clever tiling forming a dais for the warp platform; Kingdoms would probably have a nice particle-effect magic wormhole; Zone might have a teleporter pad, "Like Star Trek!"; etcetera. Whenever you enter the Hubworld from another server, you come out of that warpgate - and still look like you did on the server you just came from. It's easy enough to pull off this effect (I did it on Graalympus), you just have to borrow the other servers' replaceani commands and select based on that...but you need global strings to get the players' appearance on said server, so.
That's the basics of it. The Graal Hubworld would expand eventually to include meeting rooms (the ultimate Guild Hall), Game rooms (a great place to anchor the Flash Games), and ideally a translation book so people from other countries can communicate via pre-determined pictographs ("Hello" becomes , "have a seat" becomes an arrow pointing to a chair, "Check" becomes a colored king with panic lines, "Checkmate" becomes the king falling over...). Someday it could be the center of a Global Quest, each server reading your progress on other servers and giving you a little bonus for it (kinda like having a Metal Gear Solid 2 save on your card when you play one of the thousands of sequels)...expanding to some quests which span multiple cooperative servers, running onto one server to foil an escaped madman's plan then chasing him onto another...

What do you guys think?
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Old 10-12-2006, 12:06 AM
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Some server for trials, with just a little amount of content would rock. This could also be the portal to other worlds.
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Old 10-12-2006, 12:11 AM
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Combining Hubworld with Trialworld? Intriguing...I haven't quite got around to posting that thought yet. ;-)
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Old 10-12-2006, 02:55 AM
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I think this is probably among the best of the ideas you've suggested. Having such a hubworld would bring together the existing players, as well as help give new players a sense of direction.

Can't you just imagine a unified Graal? It's such a nice thought.
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Old 10-12-2006, 05:54 AM
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I believe a great addition to hubworld would be player and guild housing. Everything could be automated and global strings could be used to buy furniture and other things that people earn on other servers for hubworld. There could be different types of buildings to have housing (Apartments, Houses, Mansions, etc).
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:43 AM
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*shrugs* Sure, why not? I wasn't thinking along those lines, but Stefan's proven a canny scripter can make server-controlled automatic houses...they can pay for their rent with Global Gralats.
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My name is Maikel and I approve this thread.

Just change the Login server so its like GK when a trial logs in and has those lamp post things to pick the island. Display the playercounts above each server. Be creative about it! If a player walks near the GK thing have their character turn into a GK person or something.


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On a semi-unrelated note, remember that Graalympics server where you would pick your home server and you spawn in a well-known area of the server? I always thought that was the coolest thing ever.

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Old 10-12-2006, 09:04 PM
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EDIT:
On a semi-unrelated note, remember that Graalympics server where you would pick your home server and you spawn in a well-known area of the server? I always thought that was the coolest thing ever.
I should hope so, that was my baby. 's what gave me the idea for this server too. :-)

's a good idea, loading their New Bodies while still in Hubworld. Like you walk behind the Classic screen and you get your Classic body, enter the Zone phonebooth and come out as your Zone body, etcetera...with sufficiently complex Global Strings, you could even edit your Classic appearance and ask the good people of Classic to transfer it over when you go in.
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If this "one server" is G2k2 like I wouldn't play it.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:03 AM
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G2K2? I don't follow - you trying to say If it's Kingdom style?

It'd make more sense to be classicstyle anyway. Interior? Space station? Cave? Town? I kinda like the idea of it being a town personally; grassy, with areas in varying styles for each PW's gate (a level13 style level, a Zone style area, a few Kingdoms houses...)
How does everyone else see it?
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Old 10-14-2006, 06:36 AM
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I actually like the idea of newbieland and hubland being one place. it would need a pretty powerful server though because it would become popular --fast.
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Old 10-14-2006, 07:26 AM
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NewbieHubland might need to be fast, but what if it's just wicked efficient? No walls to walk through means no you can just use clientside movement...no stats to hack means nothing to put serverside...:-)
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Old 10-14-2006, 01:41 PM
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You know, we could just make this trial world and hubworld, and then when done show stefan/unixmad. They may approve of it and accept it (hopefully). But we ideally want them involved.
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Old 10-14-2006, 09:21 PM
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*shrugs* Sure, I'm game. By any chance do you have a dev. server? ;-)
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*shrugs* Sure, I'm game. By any chance do you have a dev. server? ;-)
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