duling weapons (update plz)

[theHAWKER]

.... when you dule whiled a weapon you can only dule the same weapon type!

so i was thinking that you could dule a app and a cros bow or any oter pistol with any other pistol!

it would be alot beter then just duling one wep with the same wep!!

[MrsMastermind]

Alright, are you related to the colin guy? Because you remind me of him.

[SayianOozaru]

no he's got a good idea, i'd like to dual weild my red pistols with my blue pistols. i meant to make a post on this just never got around to it :P, and the last bullet (say with rps/bps) to hit the opponent would go under that guns kill (if the last bullet to hit the player i was fighting got hit by rps, then i would get a kill under rps, and not bps...get it?)

[Sulukra]

If this happens I demand that you can also choose single fire without having to switch weapons. Example, I hit S and my weapon equipped to S fires; I hit D and my weapon equipped to D fires.

[Crono]

The problem with this is balance. Appirces weren't made to be coupled with KV9's and vice versa. I could simply hold S, making the kv9 shoot fast at the player insuring he can't move, and at the same time have the appirce shoot, insuring I do tons of damage.

That and ganis.

[SayianOozaru]

we only have like 9 pistols so thats like 37 ganis more...or maybe 45 ish

[Sulukra]

Well, if you were to use gani attributes it really wouldn't be that hard for most pistols.

[MisterMastermind]

But those weapons weren't meant to be used together.

[MrsMastermind]

Originally Posted by SayianOozaru

no he's got a good idea, i'd like to dual weild my red pistols with my blue pistols. i meant to make a post on this just never got around to it :P, and the last bullet (say with rps/bps) to hit the opponent would go under that guns kill (if the last bullet to hit the player i was fighting got hit by rps, then i would get a kill under rps, and not bps...get it?)

How about, if you want Rp kills, use Rps. And if you want Bp kills, use Bps.Genius! :O

[SayianOozaru]

having different dual weapons would add more challenge and maybe some new ways to fighting, so that's why i want it

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by SayianOozaru

having different dual weapons would add more challenge and maybe some new ways to fighting, so that's why i want it

It would also add to unfair advantage that pistoles have.

[MrsMastermind]

There would be no point switching between Rps and Bps since they're basicly the same.

[theHAWKER]

More on topic...

How about only duling plasma like weapons and bulet weapons?

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by theHAWKER

.... when you dule whiled a weapon you can only dule the same weapon type!

so i was thinking that you could dule a app and a cros bow or any oter pistol with any other pistol!

it would be alot beter then just duling one wep with the same wep!!

No. Heres an idea... G18 and Bluepistol, you can't move while you are being destroyed by speed and strength at the same time. Or, even better! DH18 and Bluepistol, amazing range, speed, and unbeatable power.

[Bl0nkt]

Extremely hard to create with graal's tools.

[MisterMastermind]

Better idea, G18 and r51, amazing speed and strength. That couldn't possibly be lame.

[Raeiphon]

Okay, time for some technical addition:

You are able to dual wield any pistol/weapon that can but penalties apply:
Damage from the overall weapon is reduced by 50% (unless it's the same gun type)
Range of the D weapon bullet is rounded down/up to the S weapon
Average rate of fire for both weapons is adjusted to the D weapon
Delay is both weapons overall delay/2 x0.5

Giving the players endless customizability, as finding the right combination of pistol to ensure maximum damage and sparring capability will begin.

An example:

kv9 (s) g18 (d)
Damage: 13
Delay: 245 (ms)
Effects: The kv9's extrodinarily long range coupled with the g18's rapidfire creates an extremely strong and wide spread sparring weapon,with little ability to miss. However, the minute damage of the combination leaves it lacking on potential DPS that other combinations may have.

apripper (s) appierces (d)
Dmg: 16
Delay: 345 (ms)
Effects: The high damage of the Apripper coupled with the high spread and dual fire of the Appierces makes this an extremely adaptive combination. With medium range, high damage yet high delay, this ensures a good sparring/general pking combination.

r51 (s) kv9 (d)
Damage: 19
Delay: 385
Effects: With the r51's incredible damage augmented by the delay and range of the kv9, makes this a good medium-far range set, yet it's horrendous offset and little spread ensures certain death in short range situations.

Or simply put, each weapon asserts it's default trait when dual wielded, and both weapons delay are added together to form the final result. <- alternative

[Blackdragon]

I'm srry but this idea is stuiped this would make an uneven balance of power in weapons causing mass chaos to zone. the dueling weaponz should stay the same. but i mean that be cool to be use like a apprice and a crossbow at the same time but a g18 and a appipper that wouldn't be good so i think change it alittle and u can't duel pistols but u can do it with knives and that but not with other pistols...... Sayian stop trying to make the game on ur side since u cant fight without laming with ur stuiped event weaponz.....

[SayianOozaru]

uh was gonna say sup sea, but i guess not no more >:3 and how am i trying to get the game on my side? most the people here have disagreed against what i want, this wasn't even my topic lol, and i think i pwnt u with apps in a spar 3 of the 4 times...so...since when are apps event weapons?

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by Blackdragon

I'm srry but this idea is stuiped this would make an uneven balance of power in weapons causing mass chaos to zone. the dueling weaponz should stay the same. but i mean that be cool to be use like a apprice and a crossbow at the same time but a g18 and a appipper that wouldn't be good so i think change it alittle and u can't duel pistols but u can do it with knives and that but not with other pistols...... Sayian stop trying to make the game on ur side since u cant fight without laming with ur stuiped event weaponz.....

That's a flame, 3 month ban.

Originally Posted by SayianOoozaru

uh was gonna say sup sea, but i guess not no more >:3 and how am i trying to get the game on my side? most the people here have disagreed against what i want, this wasn't even my topic lol, and i think i pwnt u with apps in a spar 3 of the 4 times...so...since when are apps event weapons?

This is fuel for flaming, maybe 1 week ban for responding to flames?

[SayianOozaru]

no he didn't flame, he simply said i was trying to get the game on my side and said that i can't beat anyone without my event weapons, and i responded to the comment letting him no that i can beat him without my event weapons, if it goes any further than it'd be use flaming we simply just had a short convo

[MisterMastermind]

flame v 1. to issue an argument, generally through some written medium. Origin: discussion groups on the Internet. Flames are usually emotional rather than objective in nature.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by SayianOozaru

no he didn't flame, he simply said i was trying to get the game on my side and said that i can't beat anyone without my event weapons, and i responded to the comment letting him no that i can beat him without my event weapons, if it goes any further than it'd be use flaming we simply just had a short convo

Yes, a short convo with no flaming at all.

Originally Posted by Blackdragon

stuiped

Originally Posted by Blackdragon

u cant fight without laming with ur stuiped event weaponz.....

Both Seafire if you haven't noticed.

[jkool666]

And in what world is Huwajux and mistermastermind mods? Maybe they shouldn't speak unless they have to talk about the topic? Because they are spaming .

Anyways, everyone has agreed different types of dual pistols is stupid so maybe we shouldn't even talk here anymore?

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by jkool666

And in what world is Huwajux and mistermastermind mods? Maybe they shouldn't speak unless they have to talk about the topic? Because they are spaming .

I'm not trying to be a mod, but flamers deserve to die. You're off topic yourself you hypocrite. Spam is fun because it isn't insulting anybody, flaming is bad because it's usually done by people who can't take losing.

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

I'm not trying to be a mod, but flamers deserve to die. You're off topic yourself you hypocrite. Spam is fun because it isn't insulting anybody, flaming is bad because it's usually done by people who can't take losing.

Originally Posted by jkool666

Anyways, everyone has agreed different types of dual pistols is stupid so maybe we shouldn't even talk here anymore?

Yes, because I'm off topic... And yes you are trying to be a mod. You complain about other players "flaming" which is spamming and spamming and flaming is against the rules is it not? If you weren't trying to be a mod, you wouldn't have said ANYTHING about it. You would have left it as it is. I'm sure someone will take care of it. Oh wait, thats the MOD's job! *Waits for a smart ass answer to either:
1. Jesses a hypocrite.
2. I'm not being a mod!

*On Topic* Can we not just ignore this from now on. It seems that no one likes the idea because its to overpowered...

[MisterMastermind]

I was simply reminding them it was against the rules, they stopped flaming, problem solved.

[someonesomewhere]

How about this?

Just no.

It's stupid. Zone is already lame enough, and most of the people who play it don't have the patience to try to use anything other than "ub3r 1337 @ppz".

So please, try not to waste your time on stuff like this. I know I sound completely negative when I post like this, but I just hate the idea.

Besides, Stefan has better things to be doing than create something that isn't worth half the time it takes.

[MrsMastermind]

I wanna say something really funny so that Cor puts me in his signature!

[someonesomewhere]

Go for it :P

Hey wait, that's good enough.

[MrsMastermind]

Yay!