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Old 01-15-2006, 02:38 PM
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What makes my Graal lag?

The reason why even though I'm level 12 and I can't even do 1 Haunted House room is because of lag. It freezes or goes super slow and I die. If it wasn't laggy I'd be ok. I doubt it's the internet because I've done dungeons and stuff without lag plenty of times before. But this computer is an emachines it's REALLY old and I have to restart it like 3 times a day it's super slow just opening my documents takes forever I'm going to burn my files ASAP before it crashes and i dont even have a gfx card I think

What do I do??
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Old 01-15-2006, 02:40 PM
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I hate it. after a few hours the ram is full without end.

Kingdoms music sounds uggly, and it laggs like hell.

I can say that iam from time to time playing hours of steam games (golden eye source and so on) and when i end it, the comp is as quick as usual.

V4 should be more optimized to save the ram x-x
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Old 01-15-2006, 03:52 PM
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I used the Classic server ping status NPC, to check my ping and to see what makes it lag. And pretty much every application that connects to the internet created a certain ammount of lag, such as MSN, AIM and others.

For people with a good connection, this should effect them much, i also found that Norton Firewall slows down the rate things are downloaded.

When you said, it takes ages to load a word document, then im guessing you dont have much RAM, therefor making the game itself generally slow, if it cant even open a word document, and i think you may have an intergrated graphics card, worst case scenario. Would take time to load images I used to have one lol.

Just close down everything, and dont use graal in full screen, i made the screen reasonably small when i had a rubbish PC.
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:38 PM
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What makes my Graal lag?
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this computer is an emachines it's REALLY old and I have to restart it like 3 times a day it's super slow just opening my documents takes forever



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What do I do??
Two options:
1) Reinstall Windows
2) Buy a new computer with more RAM, a faster processor, and a decent GFX card.
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Old 01-16-2006, 12:45 AM
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Probably this:





Two options:
1) Reinstall Windows
2) Buy a new computer with more RAM, a faster processor, and a decent GFX card.
i like it simple

thanks
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Old 01-16-2006, 01:54 AM
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Cant you read? X-x most source engine programms better work with ram.
When iam playing cs:s trillan and so on is running, too.

And i can still use the comp for something else than rebooten after playing hours of css x.x
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Old 01-16-2006, 02:16 AM
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Two options:
1) Reinstall Windows
2) Buy a new computer with more RAM, a faster processor, and a decent GFX card.
The problem is that graal doesnt handel the memory it uses right. It doesnt release it properly when its done so the computer is giving up memory but when Graal is done with them, it doesnt give it back. I am not 100% sure why but it certainly does happen. If I stay on graal for a few hours doing stuff, and I close out of everything (aim, all other programs) and get to the state my computer is when it loads up.. and try to get onto outlook express, images will start disappearing and things wont load because of lack of memory.

It's actually a pretty simple problem to fix, stefan might just not realize its happening. If I don't play graal, I don't have to restart for weeks, or longer depending on what I do. If you are using nothing but well made programs, you shouldnt ever have to restart because the memory that is used is always returned.

Thats the problem.
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Old 01-16-2006, 02:34 AM
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Graal on windows is a RESOURCE PIG. I found that on my windowze xp box w/ 640 MB ram, and a 1.6 GHz processor, it still used 100% of my resources, boiled my processor, and I could do nearly nothing else. On linux however it runs beautifully, I can run anything with it, it uses about 5% of the cpu, etc. etc. etc. I don't know why this is, perhaps because I have an optimized K7 Kernel for my AMD, and windows just seems to pretend that AMD doesn't exist x-x
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Old 01-16-2006, 02:34 AM
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I hate it. after a few hours the ram is full without end.
What game are you playing?
We have tested v4 on servers like Unholy Nation, running it for a few hours and still had below 40 Mbyte of RAM usage.

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The music usually doesn't require more than 1 or 2 % of the cpu time, except you have a buggy sound driver. Sometimes when switching to a new music file it can freeze for a few milliseconds.

I can understand that things are not always working perfect, but please be fair x-x
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Old 01-16-2006, 02:38 AM
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Graal on windows is a RESOURCE PIG. I found that on my windowze xp box w/ 640 MB ram, and a 1.6 GHz processor, it still used 100% of my resources
Graal never used 100%, it was just some problem of v2 that the taskmanager showed 100%, with v4 you get the correct display. On Kingdoms Graal usually takes 200-300 Mhz, when there are a lot of people/spells it can also be temporary more.
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Although props for it working better on linux.
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:00 AM
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Stefan, my concern isnt with memory usage, but memory restoration.

Graal doesnt restore the memory it uses back after a while you can close out of every single program but something simple like outlook, or aim.. and it will not run properly because it has no memory left.
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:18 AM
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Stefan, my concern isnt with memory usage, but memory restoration.

Graal doesnt restore the memory it uses back after a while you can close out of every single program but something simple like outlook, or aim.. and it will not run properly because it has no memory left.
Well Windows98 had memory leaks with GDI (playerlist) but we tried to reduce the usage of GDI as much as possible so it shouldn't be a big problem anymore (at least I don't have problems with v4 on Windows98 anymore).
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Old 01-16-2006, 06:11 AM
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Hmm..

How come when I resize my graal window its extremely laggy and glitchy? I have a 2.6g intel prcoessor with 1024mb ddr ram and a 64mb intel 82845G graphics card. I have no idea why graal would be so glitchy and laggy in full screen. I updated the drivers too and it still is all crappy.. ... now I'm stuck with a really tiny graal window so it doesn't go all glitchy..
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Old 01-16-2006, 06:28 AM
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Full screen with 32bit graphics instead of 16 bit graphics has been known to cause some slowdowns on the video card. This could be your lagg issue.

Other then that, DirectX update might help too.

If all else fails, get a newer video card.

And in the extreme case, linux... I mean.... *looks around*
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