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Old 08-14-2005, 09:29 AM
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Question Graal v4?

I was told it was released. If it is, how do I download it? I think i was lied to.
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Old 08-14-2005, 05:55 PM
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It's only released to selected testers. I heard it may be released (probably to VIPs first) soon however.

Is this a better post Lance?
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Old 08-22-2005, 07:55 PM
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So it should be out soon? Neato! Graal hasn't blown its brains out in a horrible way to kill itself!
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Old 08-22-2005, 08:05 PM
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So it should be out soon? Neato! Graal hasn't blown its brains out in a horrible way to kill itself!
Well I heard that, but I don't know how true it is. Soon could mean different things to different people. To someone it may mean a week or 2, but to Stefan it could mean several months.

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Old 08-22-2005, 10:06 PM
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Well I heard that, but I don't know how true it is. Soon could mean different things to different people. To someone it may mean a week or 2, but to Stefan it could mean several months.

Who knows!
It has been ready for a few days, it just needs a new setup.exe to support it, which too is near completion.
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:32 PM
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Oh. Cool. I can't wait to see the global playerlist. Is the playerlist a separate window (Like v2.31) or is it like Graal3? (If it's like Graal3 I think there should be an option to change it.)
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:25 AM
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Oh. Cool. I can't wait to see the global playerlist. Is the playerlist a separate window (Like v2.31) or is it like Graal3? (If it's like Graal3 I think there should be an option to change it.)
Seperate window
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Old 08-23-2005, 02:14 PM
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It has been ready for a few days, it just needs a new setup.exe to support it, which too is near completion.
Sweetness.

Is it going to be just for VIP for now or what?
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:48 PM
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Sweetness.

Is it going to be just for VIP for now or what?
It is planned to be VIP only, although that could all change.
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Old 08-23-2005, 07:26 PM
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This is what I heard: Graalv4 will be released today (23Aug2005) to VIP members only.

That's all I know. z-z Malinko's the one who told me, and here's the linkey:

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...4&postcount=28
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:38 PM
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I don't think it is enough to make me want to buy a vip account. Many people have had problems with graalv3 and I would not want to pay for a program that might not work on my computer.
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:59 PM
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I don't think it is enough to make me want to buy a vip account. Many people have had problems with graalv3 and I would not want to pay for a program that might not work on my computer.
I'm pretty sure Graal3 was released before it was finished. Graal4 should have way less bugs than Graal3. Since I'm VIP, I get to see it today (I hope) .
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Old 08-24-2005, 02:12 AM
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I'm pretty sure Graal3 was released before it was finished. Graal4 should have way less bugs than Graal3. Since I'm VIP, I get to see it today (I hope) .
It will have WAY more less bugs. There has been so much testing on this version. I don't believe v3 got anywhere near this amount of attention.
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I don't think it is enough to make me want to buy a vip account. Many people have had problems with graalv3 and I would not want to pay for a program that might not work on my computer.
Actually, Graal4 was written in the same language as Graal2, and has the same interface. Graal4 is a merge between the technical side of v3 and the visual side of v2, from what I understand, although I've been wrong before.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:18 AM
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I don't think it is enough to make me want to buy a vip account. Many people have had problems with graalv3 and I would not want to pay for a program that might not work on my computer.
I'd say Graal4 is definitely worth it. Innumerable bugs from v3 were fixed. It takes 3 posts just to show how much has been fixed:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=58740
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...35#post1075836
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...45#post1098845

It's been tested for months by over 50 people. It's very stable.

In addition to all the major bugfixes, the playerlist can go outside of the Graal window again. The playerlist being stuck inside the window was one of the big things that turned tons of people away from v3, and now it's fixed.

Graal4 is faster than Graal2, and maybe even faster than Graal3 (definitely faster when starting up). It looks better, too.

Since the things that turned people away from Graal3 have changed, it opens a ton of new opportunities with the new scripting engine. With Graal4, GS2 scripts can be written clientside (think more complicated GUIs, etc).

Besides all the stuff that's been made better, there are a bunch of major new features that I know people will like All the testers that I know of use Graal4 as their normal client and have left Graal2 in the dust. I'd say it is definitely worth upgrading. I re-upgraded today, in fact.

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Old 08-25-2005, 02:21 AM
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I'd say Graal4 is definitely worth it. Innumerable bugs from v3 were fixed. It takes 3 posts just to show how much has been fixed:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=58740
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...35#post1075836
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...45#post1098845

It's been tested for months by over 50 people. It's very stable.

In addition to all the major bugfixes, the playerlist can go outside of the Graal window again. The playerlist being stuck inside the window was one of the big things that turned tons of people away from v3, and now it's fixed.

Graal4 is faster than Graal2, and maybe even faster than Graal3 (definitely faster when starting up). It looks better, too.

Since the things that turned people away from Graal3 have changed, it opens a ton of new opportunities with the new scripting engine. With Graal4, GS2 scripts can be written clientside (think more complicated GUIs, etc).

Besides all the stuff that's been made better, there are a bunch of major new features that I know people will like All the testers that I know of use Graal4 as their normal client and have left Graal2 in the dust. I'd say it is definitely worth upgrading. I re-upgraded today, in fact.

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Old 08-25-2005, 04:23 AM
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I'd say Graal4 is definitely worth it. Innumerable bugs from v3 were fixed. It takes 3 posts just to show how much has been fixed:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=58740
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...35#post1075836
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...45#post1098845

It's been tested for months by over 50 people. It's very stable.

In addition to all the major bugfixes, the playerlist can go outside of the Graal window again. The playerlist being stuck inside the window was one of the big things that turned tons of people away from v3, and now it's fixed.

Graal4 is faster than Graal2, and maybe even faster than Graal3 (definitely faster when starting up). It looks better, too.

Since the things that turned people away from Graal3 have changed, it opens a ton of new opportunities with the new scripting engine. With Graal4, GS2 scripts can be written clientside (think more complicated GUIs, etc).

Besides all the stuff that's been made better, there are a bunch of major new features that I know people will like All the testers that I know of use Graal4 as their normal client and have left Graal2 in the dust. I'd say it is definitely worth upgrading. I re-upgraded today, in fact.

vvv Your loss
Probably a good thing that I upgraded to VIP a little while ago.
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:04 AM
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Probably a good thing that I upgraded to VIP a little while ago.
I upgraded tuesday so i could use v4 EEEEEK i can't wait oh and where can i download it???
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I upgraded tuesday so i could use v4 EEEEEK i can't wait oh and where can i download it???
Once it is released, it will be input with the normal setup.exe

www.graalonline.com/downloads/
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ForgottenLegacy (Tue Aug 23 17:03:33 2005):
O_o

As I've said I've been wrong before. z-Z Thanks for clarifying.
CheeToS (Tue Aug 23 17:02:52 2005):
Graal4 is a mixture of languages; Delphi and C++. It doesn't have the same
interface.

Yup, I was wrong. That's the correct information, straight from Chee.
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Graal4 is a mixture of languages; Delphi and C++. It doesn't have the same interface.
I think I've seen that somewhere else on the forums. Does anyone have a screenshot of Graal4? I'm dying to see it.

Also, if it's 9:30 PM here, what time is it where Stefan is?

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I think I've seen that somewhere else on the forums. Does anyone have a screenshot of Graal4? I'm dying to see it.

Also, if it's 9:30 PM here, what time is it where Stefan is?
Uh... Germany is... +1? So... ((abs(-7) + 1) + 9.5) % 12 = ... Uhm... 05:30.

It's 5:30 AM where Stefan is, currently. Feel free to correct me on my math. z-z Germany is +1, right?
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Uh... Germany is... +1? So... ((abs(-7) + 1) + 9.5) % 12 = ... Uhm... 05:30.

It's 5:30 AM where Stefan is, currently. Feel free to correct me on my math. z-z Germany is +1, right?
So It actually comes out here on the 24th? That sucks . I hate timezones. The time should be the same everywhere.
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So It actually comes out here on the 24th? That sucks . I hate timezones. The time should be the same everywhere.
...I said 5:30AM. That's tomorrow. 5:30AM on 24Aug2005.
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Uh... Germany is... +1? So... ((abs(-7) + 1) + 9.5) % 12 = ... Uhm... 05:30.

It's 5:30 AM where Stefan is, currently. Feel free to correct me on my math. z-z Germany is +1, right?
Possibly +2, but i'm not sure either.
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Possibly +2, but i'm not sure either.
It's +1.
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My understanding: On 23 August, they tested the setup.exe for Graal v4. However, there was a big with the setup executible, but it was late at night where Stefan lives, so Stefan decided to push off the final coding and release of the exe to the next day.
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My understanding: On 23 August, they tested the setup.exe for Graal v4. However, there was a big with the setup executible, but it was late at night where Stefan lives, so Stefan decided to push off the final coding and release of the exe to the next day.
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There was no garunteed set date of yesterday, or today as it currently stands. Just because Malinko said something in one thread doesn't make it true. I couldn't get a stright answer out of masterstorm, ibonic, or even stefan himself >.>; Just wait, you'll know when v4 comes out.. It will be a big deal
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Nabru: I was told that yesterday by a friend who is a v4 tester, who keeps me updated on the progress of the new client.

On another note, anyone else angry at Malinko for spreading false information on the release of Graal v4?
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Nabru: I was told that yesterday by a friend who is a v4 tester, who keeps me updated on the progress of the new client.

On another note, anyone else angry at Malinko for spreading false information on the release of Graal v4?
There's no reason to be mad at Malinko. That was an estimated release date. It'll be out soon. We can wait another day or two.
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We can wait another day or two.
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Will players only be able to use v2 and v4 once v4 is released?
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I'm willing to bet that once v4 is released to everybody that only v4 will work at all.

Also, it updates itself so any incompatibilities or glitches can be fixed quickly and completely. I haven't used any other version for 2 months.
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WHEN MAN WHEN WILL THE THING BE ABLE TO DOWNLOAD FOR VIP NYAAAAAAAH!!!!! im freakin out here!!!!
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WHEN MAN WHEN WILL THE THING BE ABLE TO DOWNLOAD FOR VIP NYAAAAAAAH!!!!! im freakin out here!!!!
My guess is around sometime in September. The amount of bugs found and fixed in v4 is enormous, so i'm pretty sure everything should almost be working 100% by now. I could be wrong.

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Will players only be able to use v2 and v4 once v4 is released?
On some playerworlds they'll require you to download the newest version once it's released, in which this case would be v4. Although, i don't see why you would want to still use v2 though.
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Old 08-25-2005, 04:40 PM
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anubis_wing will become famous soon enough
*ahem* i mean for vip stefan said not too long ago in this forum it would be released today but WHEN!
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