PKing on GK

[Khallos_2k2]

Why does GK have PKing? Every other server does, so can't the people of Graal get along without killing each other for once? If people want to PK, they should go to Era or somewhere like that.
When Graal 2002 Alpha first came out, it was great. Noone PKed each other, noone insulted each other, even the newbies RPed, and if you needed something, you could ask for it and someone would most likely give it to you. There was no distrust, stealing, scamming or kill stealing.
I. personally, feel that it would be better if PKing was removed. For example, say that some guy has spent 3 months levelling up to about level 8/9. He then decides to go into battle mode to go and kill t-rexes and get the max amount of exp from them. However, as he walks there, a lame level 38 powergamer with "leet skills" and good items PKs him. And again. And again. And again; etc. Within 10 minutes, he's back at level 1 again, wasting 3 months of his graal time. That's unfair.
Maybe at least we could go back to saying /peaceful and /battle to switch modes. I know it would be used by people to escape PKing, maybe even used by PKers, but then there would be no PKing, so it would be fine by me.
So post your feelings about this topic here.

[skyler87]

I still don't think that you get any more exp in b-mode then you do in p-mode.

[thelostviking]

Iam in b mode because it fits more to ip.
Unfortunatelly the non rp people use it to pk.

[--Chris--]

Dude what the hell are you talking about!?

"When Graal 2002 Alpha first came out, it was great. Noone PKed each other, noone insulted each other, even the newbies RPed, and if you needed something, you could ask for it and someone would most likely give it to you. There was no distrust, stealing, scamming or kill stealing."

No-one could have PKed each other because hp was the food bar, everyone sure did try though There was _NO_ rping. There was nothing really needed to be given and what was could have been all obtained in one day several times over. No stealing?! HAHAHAAHAHA Good God dude *smacks* wake up and smell the freakin cafeine! There was and always will be idiots on Graal that steal/scam - looks like a certain someone forgot about mining and the 1 gralat game on the server ;x

"I. personally, feel that it would be better if PKing was removed. For example, say that some guy has spent 3 months levelling up to about level 8/9. He then decides to go into battle mode to go and kill t-rexes and get the max amount of exp from them. However, as he walks there, a lame level 38 powergamer with "leet skills" and good items PKs him. And again. And again. And again; etc. Within 10 minutes, he's back at level 1 again, wasting 3 months of his graal time. That's unfair."

Who the hell spends 3 months reaching that level? Someone could hit lv30 in a day without being a "power gamer." You don't play GK do you? EXP loss has been removed for almost a year now and when you are PKed you lose coins equivalant to 4x your level - if you're a newbie let's say lv8/9 like in your example...that's what, not even 40 coins? The economy on GK is so screwed up people can make 10s of 1000s of plat in one day. On another note I don't really see anyone constantly pking someone else without good reason, example: being scammed and when they do friends usually come to the rescue and it's all forgotten about a day or two later. What is Graal without pking? Sure people like to RP but there really is no point in levelling - getting better equipment without it. No-one really says "Hi I got new armor today - wanna spar?" I for one wouldn't even accept a challenge inside the arena as I hate losing fingers...I'd prefer to lose that hobo-ish amount of plat.

"Maybe at least we could go back to saying /peaceful and /battle to switch modes. I know it would be used by people to escape PKing, maybe even used by PKers, but then there would be no PKing, so it would be fine by me.
So post your feelings about this topic here."

No, that's stupid - you might aswell add pausing or allow people to use "God mode" type hacks. What I would like to see is kingdom mode brought back though.

[Khallos_2k2]

Chris, i only said it was MY opinion
fine, keep PKing then...
I spent 3 months reaching level 9 about a year and a half ago, when there werent uber items and the best enemies were bomies until when smokies etc were invented when i was level6
I know there will always be idiots on Graal, and that it what stops it from being an excellent game
But yes, Kingdom mode should be brought back.

[--Chris--]

You're telling me you made a thread off an ASSUMPTION of what it's like now and your "opinion" was based off of this? lol....That wasn't very smart.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Khallos_2k2

I spent 3 months reaching level 9 about a year and a half ago

Ah. Where, exactly, did you reach level 9 a year and a half ago?

Just curious.

[--Chris--]

Holy cow, Lance is right. A year and a half ago (June 2002) was just a bit after I got p2p (March 2002.) Alpha didn't come out til that Christmas I believe and you couldn't even level up then. Oh..I also remember when you could level up..reaching lv6 was like "woah"

[Splke]

Uhh.... Player killing, not the word PK everybody has now accustomed to randomly killing anyplayer you see, is part of War, wars which are part of RP. Take away the PK, you leave yourself with Valikorlia, a ****ty server with a total of 50 people MAX on it... go there if you want RP and no PK... otherwise, PKing is just gonna florish as my fastest way to get plat... = O Thanks people who make 10k in one day and are dumb enuf to AFK on GK!!!

Anywhom, despite the fact that you got totally verbally owned...

"Kingdom Mode" - <insert definition>

o.o;; I honestly think Chris told me... before.. at.. some point...

[Evil_Lord_Sparda]

Yeah...

[Khallos_2k2]

I didn't say i was level 6 a year and a half ago.
It was a rough estimate-must have been a year and a quarter ago to a year ago then.
Guys, stop victimising me here lol
Good point SpIke, I am getting owned here lol, partly cos two of the most knowledgeable people about Kingdoms are against me
Someone delete this thread then cos its devolving into a "Flame Khallos!" thread XD

[DenoriZakarum]

Originally posted by --Chris--
Dude what the hell are you talking about!?

"When Graal 2002 Alpha first came out, it was great. Noone PKed each other, noone insulted each other, even the newbies RPed, and if you needed something, you could ask for it and someone would most likely give it to you. There was no distrust, stealing, scamming or kill stealing."

No-one could have PKed each other because hp was the food bar, everyone sure did try though There was _NO_ rping. There was nothing really needed to be given and what was could have been all obtained in one day several times over. No stealing?! HAHAHAAHAHA Good God dude *smacks* wake up and smell the freakin cafeine! There was and always will be idiots on Graal that steal/scam - looks like a certain someone forgot about mining and the 1 gralat game on the server ;x

"I. personally, feel that it would be better if PKing was removed. For example, say that some guy has spent 3 months levelling up to about level 8/9. He then decides to go into battle mode to go and kill t-rexes and get the max amount of exp from them. However, as he walks there, a lame level 38 powergamer with "leet skills" and good items PKs him. And again. And again. And again; etc. Within 10 minutes, he's back at level 1 again, wasting 3 months of his graal time. That's unfair."

Who the hell spends 3 months reaching that level? Someone could hit lv30 in a day without being a "power gamer." You don't play GK do you? EXP loss has been removed for almost a year now and when you are PKed you lose coins equivalant to 4x your level - if you're a newbie let's say lv8/9 like in your example...that's what, not even 40 coins? The economy on GK is so screwed up people can make 10s of 1000s of plat in one day. On another note I don't really see anyone constantly pking someone else without good reason, example: being scammed and when they do friends usually come to the rescue and it's all forgotten about a day or two later. What is Graal without pking? Sure people like to RP but there really is no point in levelling - getting better equipment without it. No-one really says "Hi I got new armor today - wanna spar?" I for one wouldn't even accept a challenge inside the arena as I hate losing fingers...I'd prefer to lose that hobo-ish amount of plat.

"Maybe at least we could go back to saying /peaceful and /battle to switch modes. I know it would be used by people to escape PKing, maybe even used by PKers, but then there would be no PKing, so it would be fine by me.
So post your feelings about this topic here."

No, that's stupid - you might aswell add pausing or allow people to use "God mode" type hacks. What I would like to see is kingdom mode brought back though.

*clap clap clap clap* Everything Chris says is true, and since you havent been on in half a year, go kill a lord, youll level up in one lord

[graaliholic]

If you hate PKing so much, then buy a server, take CF's code (it's open source, I have it on my comp :o) and make some levels, and wow, you have your very own GK-like server, free to do with what you wish.

[Satrek2000]

PKing is a part of GK, whether you like it or now, and it can even be used for rp-purpose - xcept that it wouldn't be called pk then. Anyway, I think two things can fix this - close the gap between the strong and the weak by decreasing the bonus you get per level (mentioned that in another thread somewhere) - and add a warmode which puts some limits on battles and wars to make them fun to participate... that is, happen at all.