Woo, corrupt Babylon.

protagonist · #1 07-07-2003, 10:39 PM

They jailed me for massing out to come back and play UN, after UN was down due to technical problems. Wooo! I guess Babylon can't get their own playercount, so they have to make sure they keep the ones they gain due to an hour of downtime on the more popular servers. I'd give this to the GM, but since there isn't one I figure you guys can solve it.

Andy0687 · #2 07-07-2003, 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist
They jailed me for massing out to come back and play UN, after UN was down due to technical problems. Wooo! I guess Babylon can't get their own playercount, so they have to make sure they keep the ones they gain due to an hour of downtime on the more popular servers. I'd give this to the GM, but since there isn't one I figure you guys can solve it.

You shouldnt go to other servers and advertise, if the people are too stupid to check for themselves, its their loss

mabye they started to like babylon better

protagonist · #3 07-07-2003, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by Andy0687

You shouldnt go to other servers and advertise, if the people are too stupid to check for themselves, its their loss

mabye they started to like babylon better

I sincerely doubt it. And if you think that the majority of your would-be players are stupid, no wonder your playercount is so low on average.

Andy0687 · #4 07-07-2003, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist

I sincerely doubt it. And if you think that the majority of your would-be players are stupid, no wonder your playercount is so low on average.

i didnt say they were stupid, players of babylon

if babylon went down i dont think we would all come to UN yelling "OMFG THIS SERVER SUX PLZ DIE THX"

like we saw today

Andy0687 · #5 07-07-2003, 10:53 PM

To bring you more insight into what happened, im posting for T3CK so here you go

Quote:

Sent by T3CK
Special Message brought to you in part by T3CK:

Sup llamas. It's been a while since I've been "banned" on
these forums, but I am the one responsible for the jailing. I
massed out on RC a message saying that I was sick of the
players begging for people to come to their server (I would of
even jailed players saying to stay on Babylon), and it was
getting really annoyed. Vampiric was the only one who
continued to beg, so I jailed him. Spark came on, Projectshifter
backed me up all the way. Vampiric, you would be out, but
unfortunately, like a tool, you liked to Spark about what you did.
You told him that you just massed saying that UN is back up,
when the fact is, you massed begging players to come to UN.
Here is a mass...

VT (7/7/2003 3:15:20 PM):
Mass message:
UN is back. Come play.
VT (7/7/2003 3:07:45 PM):
Mass message:
Again, UN is back up and in working order.
VT (7/7/2003 3:06:50 PM):
Mass message:
UN is back.

Seems like begging to me.

You will be in for 3 days, and if you don't like it, well, too bad.
Now post a lame reply insulting me, I can't reply to it, just PM
me on the game if you want to talk about it.

xPuppetMasterx · #6 07-07-2003, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Andy0687

VT (7/7/2003 3:15:20 PM):
Mass message:
UN is back. Come play.
VT (7/7/2003 3:07:45 PM):
Mass message:
Again, UN is back up and in working order.
VT (7/7/2003 3:06:50 PM):
Mass message:
UN is back.

Was there any profanity in this mass message?

The first message was asking. The other two were notifying...

Andy0687 · #7 07-07-2003, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by xPuppetMasterx

Was there any profanity in this mass message?

in a few yes

the majority was
"Omg babylon sucks, no wonder UN owns you all, your playercount sucks, your players suck"

thats not a way to conduct yourself, at least, it shouldnt be

protagonist · #8 07-07-2003, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by Andy0687

i didnt say they were stupid, players of babylon

if babylon went down i dont think we would all come to UN yelling "OMFG THIS SERVER SUX PLZ DIE THX"

like we saw today

I said nothing of the sort in accordance to babylon. Get your facts straight. As for T3CK, PS is an idiot,

Projectshifter -brb (07/07/2003 4:42:02 PM):
wow, thanks, I really don't care. You've just proven yourself
ignorant and an *******. Flame me on the forums, and you'll
soon regret it. I wont' start it, but I'll finish it.

Projectshifter -brb (07/07/2003 4:44:55 PM):
Whatever. You seem to think that you're better than everyone
else.
Honestly, you're just a prick.
I wouldn't mind trying to be friends if you could get over your major
ego problem.

I love how globals and staff members are allowed to act towards players.

Spark910 · #9 07-07-2003, 10:59 PM

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VT (7/7/03 3:18:53 PM):
Mass message:
Come play UN, we're back up.

Its more of a command than letting them know, well not only should you not have really done it, as its advertising, and nobdy wants to loose playercount, and it will be more vital in the future.

And as you said players went there after UN went funny for a period of time, but UN was gaiing players back quite quick, word would have got around in private PMs and not Masses, and if not, it would be almost back to normal the next day.

Servers go down, and some PWs get a bigger playercount, but it normally levels off after 1-2days. Advertising for the PW is not a good idea.

protagonist · #10 07-07-2003, 11:00 PM

Never have I seen anywhere rules against advertising for playerworlds. Would that make people trying to hire for UC playerworlds also violating such a rule?

xPuppetMasterx · #11 07-07-2003, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by Andy0687

in a few yes

the majority was
"Omg babylon sucks, no wonder UN owns you all, your playercount sucks, your players suck"

thats not a way to conduct yourself, at least, it shouldnt be

If eveyrone was jailed for saying something like that, there would be very little players that still played the game.

But yes, I totally agree that is not a way to conduct yourself.

draygin · #12 07-07-2003, 11:06 PM

I'd have done the same. One mass message I might let slide but for 3 message I would either put you in a no pm jail for a specified time period. Or if I didnt have one I would ban you for a specified time period. Which was done here. Now if it was something where you kept on at it I might make it longer. Such as you're doing on the forums now. Not to mention this kind of post is actually against the forums rules.

Common sense would tell you not to go on another server advertising competition. That's basically the same thing as advertising other mmorpgs on the forums. They're in direct competition with each other. So what if people are on that server for a while. If they really like un then you dont have to worry about anything and they'll be back in a couple of hours.

But all in all I would say the staff who ban jailed you for 3 days was well within his rights.

xPuppetMasterx · #13 07-07-2003, 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist

I said nothing of the sort in accordance to babylon. Get your facts straight. As for T3CK, PS is an idiot,

Projectshifter -brb (07/07/2003 4:42:02 PM):
wow, thanks, I really don't care. You've just proven yourself
ignorant and an *******. Flame me on the forums, and you'll
soon regret it. I wont' start it, but I'll finish it.

Projectshifter -brb (07/07/2003 4:44:55 PM):
Whatever. You seem to think that you're better than everyone
else.
Honestly, you're just a prick.
I wouldn't mind trying to be friends if you could get over your major
ego problem.

I love how globals and staff members are allowed to act towards players.

And normal players act differently? Based on those quotes I read you weren't the "idol of contemptness".

Spark910 · #14 07-07-2003, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist
Never have I seen anywhere rules against advertising for playerworlds. Would that make people trying to hire for UC playerworlds also violating such a rule?

If they are mass advertising then yes, its one of those rules PWs can enforce, or let slide. Some dont mind it, while others will. So watch your back. Or just dont do it, as Dragin has said, I wouldnt walk into Asda [Like walmart] and advertise Tesco [Like Asda.. but better].

Andy0687 · #15 07-07-2003, 11:29 PM

I didnt say you did swear, or say that stuff

Hell: Personally, i wouldnt have jailed you, just dced and warned

i dont believe in what happened here today, but i dont have the power to go over it, so i apologize, for what i really dont know, but i feel like mabye i should

i dont want you to get a bad image of the playerworld because of a few staffs choices

thesaiyan · #16 07-07-2003, 11:29 PM

The guy is jailed for telling people to go back to UN? Wow.. whoever called that should be beat with a large stick. You can't jail someone for that. I dislike UN as much as the next guy but come on, jailing someone for just advertising is stupid.

Projectshifter · #17 07-07-2003, 11:31 PM

LOL, I love how you try and make me look bad VT =)
Amazing how you didn't put what YOU typed... lovely, propaganda is isn't it?
I'm at work, and I'm running RC via my ftp, but lemme see if I can find the logs... [waits]...
Arg... I just searched for a 'pms' folder and message_*.txt and it won't find them =/
If he gets back on Bab then I can pull x-x
But it was stupid, he goes and whines to Spark (a PWA) and tries to get unjailed, and when I PM him and tell him that he can't use his influence with globals, he says that he will just get another global to do it if Spark won't... horribly pathetic. He's trying to use Spark to get him out of situations... Then he is trying to make me look bad when I was having a private conversation with him after he flat-out bad-mouthed me. It would be one thing if I stooped to his level, or if I was using my influence over him, but i wasn't, and he accuses me of playing god as being a global. Right... honestly, I would give up my global RC if I could just have global NC (NC used to be a seperate proggie). It gets so annoying when I want to get on and work, and I am so bothered =(
---Shifter

Andy0687 · #18 07-07-2003, 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by thesaiyan
The guy is jailed for telling people to go back to UN? Wow.. whoever called that should be beat with a large stick. You can't jail someone for that. I dislike UN as much as the next guy but come on, jailing someone for just advertising is stupid.

as i said a few times, i dont have the power to do things arround there

Andy0687 · #19 07-07-2003, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by Projectshifter
stuff

GST has no power over people that i know of anyways, so you have no influance to fight with

Other then your mad popularity

Lyndzey · #20 07-07-2003, 11:35 PM

Corruption (if you can call this that) cannot be posted on the forums.

I think he should have been warned after he massed out the first time, then jailed if he continued to mass out.

Not that I agree that he should have been jailed at all, it's the server's choice. He should have at least been warned though (I did not read every post, so I'm not sure if someone said this already)

Andy0687 · #21 07-07-2003, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lyndzey
Corruption (if you can call this that) cannot be posted on the forums.

I think he should have been warned after he massed out the first time, then jailed if he continued to mass out.

Not that I agree that he should have been jailed at all, it's the server's choice. He should have at least been warned though (I did not read every post, so I'm not sure if someone said this already)

to my knowledge he was not warned

but there was a mass that said if anyone advertises servers they will be jailed, if he was there for that or not, i dont know;
he wasnt personally warned though

Projectshifter · #22 07-07-2003, 11:41 PM

No, he was in fact warned =)
Mad popularity? I don't think I am anymore well-known than anyone else x-x
---Shifter

Thallen · #23 07-07-2003, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by Andy0687

You shouldnt go to other servers and advertise, if the people are too stupid to check for themselves, its their loss

mabye they started to like babylon better

He sent one mass message, telling everyone from UN that it was back online. No big deal. What we should be arguing over, is why yourself and Shavo keep making Manager tags for yourselves. Babylon needs a staff wipe, a TOTAL staff wipe, including the manager.

draygin · #24 07-07-2003, 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Thallen

He sent one mass message, telling everyone from UN that it was back online. No big deal. What we should be arguing over, is why yourself and Shavo keep making Manager tags for yourselves. Babylon needs a staff wipe, a TOTAL staff wipe, including the manager.

Actually its already been shown he massed it at least 3 seperate times. Of course if you would bother to read and comprehend you would realise this.

Don't try to change the subject to something that has no relevance to the topic.

Thallen · #25 07-07-2003, 11:55 PM

Monday's must be a good day to be corrupt on Babylon. They give Lithe from Team Intelligence level 4 RC as Guild Admin, and look what happens. We're jailed because he's claiming something about goatse.cx, which I reguse to even go to.

Thallen · #26 07-08-2003, 12:00 AM

Wow, a good 5 minutes later, look what Yen decided to do! Nothing's more fun that a whole server put in jail and staff randomly PKing us. I am telling you, someone needs to get ahold of this server.

draygin · #27 07-08-2003, 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by Thallen
Wow, a good 5 minutes later, look what Yen decided to do! Nothing's more fun that a whole server put in jail and staff randomly PKing us. I am telling you, someone needs to get ahold of this server.

You know that would actually be an awesome punishement. For people who like breaking rules and stuff have it so they cant puase or use weapons then make it so people can go in and just kill them as much as they want.

Talk about a punishment that would suck. Heck if people did something like that maybe people would think twice about breaking rules.

Thallen · #28 07-08-2003, 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by draygin

You know that would actually be an awesome punishement. For people who like breaking rules and stuff have it so they cant puase or use weapons then make it so people can go in and just kill them as much as they want.

Talk about a punishment that would suck. Heck if people did something like that maybe people would think twice about breaking rules.

It make me understandable if it were for a reason, but er, it wasn't. By the way, look at the familiar faces in that screenshot...MarkB, TB3...

TripleE · #29 07-08-2003, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by Andy0687
To bring you more insight into what happened, im posting for T3CK so here you go

posting for others is illigal.

xPuppetMasterx · #30 07-08-2003, 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by TripleE

posting for others is illigal.

Hmm, yes I believe lyndzey said something about that in the Accounts thread.

protagonist · #31 07-08-2003, 03:03 AM

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Originally posted by Projectshifter
LOL, I love how you try and make me look bad VT =)
Amazing how you didn't put what YOU typed... lovely, propaganda is isn't it?
I'm at work, and I'm running RC via my ftp, but lemme see if I can find the logs... [waits]...
Arg... I just searched for a 'pms' folder and message_*.txt and it won't find them =/
If he gets back on Bab then I can pull x-x
But it was stupid, he goes and whines to Spark (a PWA) and tries to get unjailed, and when I PM him and tell him that he can't use his influence with globals, he says that he will just get another global to do it if Spark won't... horribly pathetic. He's trying to use Spark to get him out of situations... Then he is trying to make me look bad when I was having a private conversation with him after he flat-out bad-mouthed me. It would be one thing if I stooped to his level, or if I was using my influence over him, but i wasn't, and he accuses me of playing god as being a global. Right... honestly, I would give up my global RC if I could just have global NC (NC used to be a seperate proggie). It gets so annoying when I want to get on and work, and I am so bothered =(
---Shifter

What do you mean TRY to make you look bad? You made yourself look bad. I didn't badmouth you, YOU pmed me, and you know how little tolerance I have for you. I didn't whine to Spark, I stated that I was unjustly jailed. I didn't say I'd get another global to do it, once again you manage to come off like a complete idiot by assuming that which is not true. I didn't accuse you of anything, you have a bad habbit of assuming the untrue. I didn't bother you, YOU pmed ME.

Quote:

Corruption (if you can call this that) cannot be posted on the forums.

Indeed, but you aren't GM yet so I can't send it to you

.

Andy0687 · #32 07-08-2003, 04:28 AM

yus, i didnt know posting for others was illegal, even though people do it all the time, you only seem to care about mine

Alexander · #33 07-08-2003, 09:40 PM

I gave Shavo and James the fake Manager Tags.
Also if you look at the screenshot, Lithe was asking you if you said something.

Thallen · #34 07-08-2003, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by Alexander
I gave Shavo and James the fake Manager Tags.
Also if you look at the screenshot, Lithe was asking you if you said something.

Alex, I noticed this, but several people are jailed in that screenshot, then it simply lead to the whole server being jailed. You should be on so much more often. The Head and Asst. Head Developer were abusing event text, using boots to PK, and Rufio (the Asst. Head Developer) made his own little control NPC in which most likely abusing with as we speak. I think there needs to be a staff wipe...

Spark910 · #35 07-08-2003, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist
Indeed, but you aren't GM yet so I can't send it to you .

Well apparently she hasnt been approached to be GM, so will remain Accounts Admin, until otherwise announced or told to you by her.

And this is a Playerworld related problem, you can tell me, Houdini or Aftershock for now.

Alexander · #36 07-08-2003, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by Thallen

Alex, I noticed this, but several people are jailed in that screenshot, then it simply lead to the whole server being jailed. You should be on so much more often. The Head and Asst. Head Developer were abusing event text, using boots to PK, and Rufio (the Asst. Head Developer) made his own little control NPC in which most likely abusing with as we speak. I think there needs to be a staff wipe...

I believe that screenshot was taken while one of the players accounts password was stolen. They couldnt get on RC because of the ip range but the Control npc allowed them to jail everyone in the level. Control npcs will soon be removed. Also Lyndzey changed the staff's account password so the stolen password would no longer work.

Spark910 · #37 07-08-2003, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Alexander

I believe that screenshot was taken while one of the players accounts password was stolen. They couldnt get on RC because of the ip range but the Control npc allowed them to jail everyone in the level. Control npcs will soon be removed. Also Lyndzey changed the staff's account password so the stolen password would no longer work.

E-mail her, she may never read this post.

protagonist · #38 07-09-2003, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by Spark910

And this is a Playerworld related problem, you can tell me, Houdini or Aftershock for now.

Yes, it really helped telling you. All I found out that as long as money is payed, there is no restriction on conduct.

Deek2 · #39 07-09-2003, 01:38 AM

This is rediculous. UN has a wonderful playerbase. If the players like the server soo much, they would simply come back another time. You don't need to go on a different playerworld and bug them to come back.

protagonist · #40 07-09-2003, 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by Deek2
This is rediculous. UN has a wonderful playerbase. If the players like the server soo much, they would simply come back another time. You don't need to go on a different playerworld and bug them to come back.

There is an infrequently used solution to "bugging". It's called "ignoring".