UC Playerworlds

Spark910 · #1 05-13-2003, 10:41 PM

I may or may not be going around the UC playerworlds. But either way, someone shall. The aim will be to see what they have developed since the last time they were on the pulic PW. To find out how much time they need. And to find out if they are worth the wait. If I get to do this I will create a report for each of the UC Playerworlds so you have some idea about what is going on behind those doors.

We hope they are all good and worth the wait. But a check has not been done for some time now. So another one is needed. I will try and get the PWA to keep this a monthly event. And some time soon the Public PWs shall be investigated fully to check they are sticking up to the standards.

I will have to talk to AS fully about it later.

Thankyou.

Waltz5 · #2 05-13-2003, 10:44 PM

It's about time

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Glad to see something is getting done with this new team.

Spark910 · #3 05-13-2003, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by Waltz5
It's about time .

Glad to see something is getting done with this new team.

Alot of things have already been done. but not publically announced =D

Androk · #4 05-13-2003, 10:59 PM

As long as you show us many screenshots, as well as describe what is going on , on Oasis, I am happy =)

Darlene159 · #5 05-13-2003, 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by Androk
As long as you show us many screenshots, as well as describe what is going on , on Oasis, I am happy =)

lol, I dont believe that is within his rights

Soul-Blade · #6 05-14-2003, 12:59 AM

Umm, as for that going on in Oasis, Shifting Ages, Graal2230, it won't happen, as those are beyond your bounds of power. I will have my world taken down before I allow someone I don't know or trust go on it. Jagen, Angel, and 1 other have been on my world, and that is it. Angel inspected my NPC server and it passed security tests. My PW will not be boarded by anyone other then them, and I certainly will not have people releasing any info on it.

I sure do hope you meant only public UC, not true UC like my own.

davidpsy · #7 05-14-2003, 01:02 AM

I hope he ment servers like End of Ages and Sanstrata that are not online yet it would be sort of fun to have someone tell people about these playerworlds so people know whats going on.

thesaiyan · #8 05-14-2003, 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade
Umm, as for that going on in Oasis, Shifting Ages, Graal2230, it won't happen, as those are beyond your bounds of power. I will have my world taken down before I allow someone I don't know or trust go on it. Jagen, Angel, and 1 other have been on my world, and that is it. Angel inspected my NPC server and it passed security tests. My PW will not be boarded by anyone other then them, and I certainly will not have people releasing any info on it.

I sure do hope you meant only public UC, not true UC like my own.

Whoa.. slow your roll. What if that is part of his job? Thats a little up-tight if you don't even trust the staff of Graal to just inspect your server. I can understand you not trusting just people but Spark is PWA and if you don't even trust them, the ones pick by Nemesis, who can you trust?

MadWolf · #9 05-14-2003, 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by Spark910
I may or may not be going around the UC playerworlds. But either way, someone shall. The aim will be to see what they have developed since the last time they were on the pulic PW. To find out how much time they need. And to find out if they are worth the wait. If I get to do this I will create a report for each of the UC Playerworlds so you have some idea about what is going on behind those doors.

We hope they are all good and worth the wait. But a check has not been done for some time now. So another one is needed. I will try and get the PWA to keep this a monthly event. And some time soon the Public PWs shall be investigated fully to check they are sticking up to the standards.

I will have to talk to AS fully about it later.

Thankyou.

Eh... you wont be coming on G2k1... sorry =/
I refuse to let anything out

Nitkizi · #10 05-14-2003, 02:16 AM

..You can't tell a PWA that you can't inspect your playerworld to make sure that your actually doing something..He said only to inspect and see if stuff is being done, not reveal your entire pws to the public..

MadWolf · #11 05-14-2003, 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by Nitkizi
..You can't tell a PWA that you can't inspect your playerworld to make sure that your actually doing something..He said only to inspect and see if stuff is being done, not reveal your entire pws to the public..

Watch me.

You think PWA might not take information or screenshots if they are good? Shows how long you have played this corrupt-frenzy game. Not saying spark is a bad guy, just saying some globals I wouldn't trust with a potatoe gun.

Soul-Blade · #12 05-14-2003, 02:23 AM

Actually, yes I can keep them out. Not from RC, but from all my content, yes. And, if I overthrown (only by Stefan or unixmad, as they are the ones who put me up) then I would rather be taken down and loose all my days of online work then allow someone on to my world. It is that simple.

Soul-Blade · #13 05-14-2003, 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by MadWolf

Watch me.

You think PWA might not take information or screenshots if they are good? Shows how long you have played this corrupt-frenzy game. Not saying spark is a bad guy, just saying some globals I wouldn't trust with a potatoe gun.

Haha, precisely! *hands a trophy to this intelligent fellow*

MadWolf · #14 05-14-2003, 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade

Haha, precisely! *hands a trophy to this intelligent fellow*

Not intelligence, common sense.

Neglegence2002 · #15 05-14-2003, 02:48 AM

I understand where Soul-Blade and Scotty are coming from. What i dont get is if they are forced to show then development, how will the PWA Team react?, casue if those Managers wont let them do there jobs, then you can easly say the PW Team is a big failure.

Nitkizi · #16 05-14-2003, 02:48 AM

Then tell him not to show anything, and he never said he would anyway. Geez, stop being paranoid.

Darlene159 · #17 05-14-2003, 03:05 AM

Err, the PWA is suppose to do a job...we dont have the right to not allow them too...dont forget, none of what you make and goes up actually belongs to you, it belongs to graal...and Stefan/Unixmad has the right to make sure everything is as it should be

Soul-Blade · #18 05-14-2003, 03:22 AM

Well, it just isn't right. We all show progress, we don't need PWA showing things we don't want players to see. Some things need to be a surprise, and PWA will ruin it. I also know that all the PWA have friends, and will tell people about the worlds...this is not acceptable.

MadWolf · #19 05-14-2003, 03:27 AM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade
Well, it just isn't right. We all show progress, we don't need PWA showing things we don't want players to see. Some things need to be a surprise, and PWA will ruin it. I also know that all the PWA have friends, and will tell people about the worlds...this is not acceptable.

*hands a trophy to this intelligent fellow*

Mykel · #20 05-14-2003, 04:06 AM

*Hands trophies to these *****ic fellows*

Guess what, he is not doing it to show anything to the public. He is doing it so you don't sit there with a UC server, doing nothing.

MadWolf · #21 05-14-2003, 04:16 AM

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Originally posted by Mykel
*Hands trophies to these intelligent fellows*

Guess what, he is not doing it to show anything to the public. He is doing it so you don't sit there with a UC server, doing nothing.

You really dont think he wouldn't put it passed him twice about showing a screenshot to a friend?

davidpsy · #22 05-14-2003, 04:44 AM

If this is all about weather or not these servers are doing anywork. Why doesnt nemesis or even Stefan him self go on the server and check it out? Rather then have someone that they both do not know very well do this all for them and likely shair information that they shouldent be shairing.

Androk · #23 05-14-2003, 05:04 AM

If the deal is that he can't show anything to anyone... That's what Spark will do. My previus comment was intended as a joke, don't take it seriusly.

Kaimetsu · #24 05-14-2003, 05:12 AM

I wouldn't trust these people either. Lackeys should not be given access to such sensitive information - if the progress needs to be checked then at least let the manager choose an arbitrator.

Mykel · #25 05-14-2003, 05:22 AM

Remember, you are not paying for these servers yet, so you have to listen.

zell12 · #26 05-14-2003, 05:50 AM

Soul-blade and Madwolf, none of you have any higher right to be above any other playerworld. You also don't have a say in this. If Aftershock decides to show progress reports on any server he will, and has the right to do so.

You *****s think he is going to take all these screenshots and all the information from the playerworlds and show them off? Your wrong, he will just give a basic summary of what is going on, and show to the public if what they are looking foward to is actually something good.

Just because you can chat to Unixmasher on icq and Stefan on debug does not give you the right to be treated above any other.

Soul-Blade · #27 05-14-2003, 05:59 AM

Ok, well whatever you guys say, there will be no one I don't trust on my world unless Stefan himself tells me otherwise.

Kaimetsu · #28 05-14-2003, 06:01 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
If Aftershock decides to show progress reports on any server he will, and has the right to do so.

Just as I have the right to delete every post ever made? No. I doubt that S&U have even agreed to this endeavour, and I'm sure that they'd make exceptions in cases such as Soul Blade's.

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You *****s think he is going to take all these screenshots and all the information from the playerworlds and show them off? Your wrong

How can you possibly say this for sure?

HoudiniMan · #29 05-14-2003, 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by MadWolf

You really dont think he wouldn't put it passed him twice about showing a screenshot to a friend?

MadWolf you can cool your jets, G2k1 is beyond our jurisdiction being that it is a Gold server, for now. As for Soul-Blade, you can disable taking screen shots if im not mistaken and im sure if you simply said " i don't want any images taken " it would be very easy to oblige. But you will have to show some work being done to somebody.

Davidspud:
Stefan is much too busy to inspect the playerworlds, that why there's a team to do it.

MadWolf · #30 05-14-2003, 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by HoudiniMan

As for Soul-Blade, you can disable taking screen shots if im not mistaken and im sure if you simply said " i don't want any images taken " it would be very easy to oblige. But you will have to show some work being done to somebody.

He has shown work. An immense amount of work at that. So why would he need to be inspected when he is going at his own rate?

Spark910 · #31 05-14-2003, 05:32 PM

UC Pws that PWA was/should be going to inspect:

Terra
Valikorlia
Rudora
Doragon Koden
Maloria
Cynical

As far as I know isn't shifting Ages a PW and not put up by Stefan like Oasis was. Well he put it up, but as a PW did he not? Either way, the following will be looked at if AS tells us to but I doubt he will without stefans permission first:

Shifting Ages
Graal2230

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I honestly do not see how any others are above the rest. And I am not going to be taking screenshots, if I was, I wouldn't be here right now typing this, as I would not have got the job.

Besides 2230 started off as a 'special' PW, and im pretty much sure it is fully classed as a PW not since onwership was passed.

And if you are the special you'd be invisible or have a different Icon to show that you are different.

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Originally posted by MadWolf

He has shown work. An immense amount of work at that. So why would he need to be inspected when he is going at his own rate?

Because those few bits could have been made in the first week, or before it went online. Im sure it wasn't, but its possible that there are no developments going on.

ETD · #32 05-14-2003, 07:04 PM

#1. I think if a playerworld is put up directly by stefan, and was NEVER reviewed by the PWA... i don't see how the PWA would have any authority over that server...

#2. i like that they're being harder on servers that are up now
=) maybe it'll make more room for new ones

Mykel · #33 05-14-2003, 07:46 PM

It should be ALL private servers. Who do you guys think you are? Guess what, if it is found that a PWA shows s/s's I am sure they will be fired. And all that will have happened to you is a s/s being shown. PWA is global staff, and you CANNOT tell them what they can an cannot do, because they are above you and you do not own your server.

Kai, as to your deleting the posts comment. That would be just like a PWA showing a s/s, you would be fired.

DarkShadows_Legend · #34 05-14-2003, 08:20 PM

There's not much you can do to prevent people from taking s/s of your playerworld. You can disable alt+2 and alt+1 but you can't keep people from doing Shift+Alt+Print Screen to do one.

If all the PWA wants to do is make sure that these playerworlds are doing work then they can pop on go on a tour and keep track of what has already been made and then later on come back to see what is new. You can not keep track of progress if you don't have anything to go by that you have seen already.

So far the biggest problem I've seen so far with PWA is their poor approach to playerworld staff. They are either uncommunicative or very demanding with very little respect. :/

Darlene159 · #35 05-14-2003, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by ETD
#1. I think if a playerworld is put up directly by stefan, and was NEVER reviewed by the PWA... i don't see how the PWA would have any authority over that server...

That is unfair.
I have to wonder what is on these PW's when people start screaming when PWA wants to inspect them :o

Warcaptain · #36 05-14-2003, 09:18 PM

worthless procedure.

as always with graal certain people will get special treatment.

like oasis, how long have they been up?
falados was scripting but has since stopped, so who is scripting?
no one
loriel? HAH

but they have a good facade, and stefan likes them so they will stay up.

graal2230?
no graphic artists work there, jagen is never on he is on 2k2 always.
but ghost pirate is buddie with stef, and jagen is even more butt buddies with him--so itll stay up.

terra or watever its called now -- changed its name so many times
rebuilt so many times.. its crap

the only pw thats been up a while i fully support is doragon or watever...... g_yoshi is amazing, ive never seen someone that appears as devoted to their playerworld as i am. *thumbs up* good job

but those 3 for sure need to go.
if pw's are going no where fast, we need to remove them.

Spark910 · #37 05-14-2003, 09:20 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ETD
#1. I think if a playerworld is put up directly by stefan, and was NEVER reviewed by the PWA... i don't see how the PWA would have any authority over that server...
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So are we all agreeing that servers such as:Galbadia-Galthia-Terra should not be checked and should be given the special treatment? As lets face it, Stefan put that online. So shall we leave that and let them be UC for 2years?

And why should we have to do that? We need to see whats going on them, and check there is nothing illegal and that they are working.

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Originally posted by ETD
#2. i like that they're being harder on servers that are up now
=) maybe it'll make more room for new ones

We cant be hard if we cant do our job. Besides there is room for new ones, considering none that are online will be shut down unless its for an illegal reason.

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Originally posted by Mykel
Guess what, if it is found that a PWA shows s/s's I am sure they will be fired.

It wouldnt actually come to that, as the team is sensible and mature enough not to be foolish. But yes they would be fired instantly.

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Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend
If all the PWA wants to do is make sure that these playerworlds are doing work then they can pop on go on a tour and keep track of what has already been made and then later on come back to see what is new. You can not keep track of progress if you don't have anything to go by that you have seen already.

Its probably better to let the PWA check it out. And if your all that bothered just pick someone so you can pass it. Like you picked Angel for NPC-Server. I would hope that I and the others are trusted by you all, but if not, then thats between you and them, NOT the PWA and the way graal is run.

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Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend
So far the biggest problem I've seen so far with PWA is their poor approach to playerworld staff. They are either uncommunicative or very demanding with very little respect. :/

We are?

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Originally posted by Darlene159
I have to wonder what is on these PW's when people start screaming when PWA wants to inspect them

It does make you wonder, yes.

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Originally posted by Warcaptain
if pw's are going no where fast, we need to remove them.

It wont happen. Unless they are opperating Illegally. Stefan doesn't want to shut them down, as he doesnt want to waste all of their time and hard work, or hurt their feelings. Im pretty much such thats what he said. Dont quote me though, could be wrong.

Warcaptain · #38 05-14-2003, 09:28 PM

i posted b4 i read but now ive read and id like to say.....

soul blade, klonoa.... i was put up by stefan and Link, not nemesis, not spark, does that mean nemesis doesnt have a say on my pw? does that mean that pwa doesnt have ne thing to say about my server?
NO

wheather you like it or not,
pwa, gm's, administrators (acc admins etc) all have power over you
and if aftershock says, i want spark to review all private servers

guess what kid, you gotta let them do it.
and if you try i hope to god nemesis is fair and fires you or shuts you down

because thats pure corrupt
and you know what, if somehow you get away with stopping them from reviewing you, thats it im done with graal because if graal is finaly THAT corrupt, theres no hope.

soul blade i didnt say ne thing about you because yuo just got up, but with that attitude youll turn into another konidias.
pwa has jurisdiction over ANY playerworld not run by the company.

and im afraid you ARENT a staff on the company.
so get with it, you arent gold, and if you are it doesnt mean you are exempt from review, because unless stefan or unixmad are managers of a server, PWA has the right and responsibility to make sure all rules are being followed, and progress is being made.

so up yours, get with it and grow up little kids.

Spark910 · #39 05-14-2003, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain
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AS hasnt said yet who will look over them. But im sure everyone can agree that they need to be looked at. And anyway I think it would be best if we get every PWA members looking, so its a more accurate look on the server.

And yes I think unless Stefan/Unix announces otherwise. They are all PWs. I gotta talk to AS sometime about it to deicde whats fully happening.

Warcaptain · #40 05-14-2003, 09:46 PM

well if they are allowed to be corrupt because stefan put them up not nemesis or pwa.. then hell, dont get on my pw if thats the case, because i was put up by Link and Stefan, no one else had a say in it.