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Old 05-04-2003, 03:46 PM
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Artifacts when using lighteffects...
I'm not sure if this will be solved in the upcomming version, but I will go ahead and post my dilemma. Since I got my new gfx card, Graal has been goofing on some of my images when I put them into light effects, but only when I set the images to have the blending but without gamma (mode 1 I think?) It also does this on images I may have resized or have in texture mode. It seems to like ignoring that there is a transparency color in the image...

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My gfx card is an ATI RADEON9700 PRO All-In-Wonder
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Old 05-11-2003, 05:55 PM
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*UPDATE*
The condition has worsened. Most any sprite on-screen that has a transparency color now shows it. Could it be the fault of DX9, from my video card, or both? It is very annoying. :'( I know I can disable D3D for Graal and the problem is fixed, but that ruins my lights and other similar effects.
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Old 05-12-2003, 02:20 AM
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Post the graphic (sourcefile, not screenshot) with the bad transparency, lemme take a lookit...it might just be getting set weird such that Graal recognizes "If no transparency, index 0 = Transparent" and DX9 doesn't
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Old 05-12-2003, 02:36 AM
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Um, its like, all my images including defaults.

Only colors I really ever use for transparency are white, black, purple, and green. I can load the tutorial level and it does it.
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Old 05-12-2003, 04:15 AM
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Thanks for posting another screenshot, that's really helpful.
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Old 05-12-2003, 04:18 AM
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Thanks for posting another screenshot, that's really helpful.
What the hell am I supposed to do? Post my graphics? Kind dumb because its not just my images, but all that Graal uses. Lights don't seem to be affected, though. So should I just zip up all my gifs, pngs, and mngs? Be one nice fat zip file
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Old 05-17-2003, 10:36 PM
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How about just one? Like the status bar background.

And is it just you or everyone on the server? It looks an awful lot like a memory error.
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How about just one? Like the status bar background.

And is it just you or everyone on the server? It looks an awful lot like a memory error.
Um, considering my doors are closed to outsiders, this is only offline. This problem only happened after I installed my new mobo and card. It was fine when I had my Radeon 7500. But to humor you here is one image.

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Graal also likes to lag like hell since I put in my new hardware :/
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Old 05-18-2003, 03:32 AM
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I get this stuff with my Radeon 9700 Pro.


Evidently 3.0 fixes it, at least in Linux.
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Old 05-18-2003, 04:08 AM
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I get this stuff with my Radeon 9700 Pro.


Evidently 3.0 fixes it, at least in Linux.
I don't have Linux nor am I interested in installing it either How long before the windows version is released? I know mac is next (knows of no one that wants to play graal with a mac )
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Old 05-18-2003, 08:18 AM
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Try using 16-bit colors in the display/setings tab when you open your desktops properties. X_x
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Old 05-18-2003, 08:21 AM
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Here is what happenes when I use 24-bit or 32-bit.
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As I recall, when I use 16-bit I get lights but no text, or somesuch. I forget the details but I think that's what it was.
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I can set it to 16-bit and the problem goes, but as Jeff said, no text. Heck, no text in 32-bit either

I'd rather leave my display settings as is.

*edit*
Going fullscreen in 32-bit mode solves the problem as well, but again, no text. I can deal with doing that more than switching color depth repeatedly.
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Yes, and if you use 32-bit in small screen, the images are displaced. You can go to full screen to fix it, or you can "zoom-in" and "zoom-out." This will fix the problem with the images you currently see.
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Yes, and if you use 32-bit in small screen, the images are displaced. You can go to full screen to fix it, or you can "zoom-in" and "zoom-out." This will fix the problem with the images you currently see.
I've disabled zoom on my PW because it kills off light effects. Text still doesn't show up
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I've sort of isolated what is causing my problems.

First, my graphics card and the drivers are to blame (even after installing the latest Catalyst drivers). Second, the WDM capture drivers are causing Graal to ignore transparent colors. I figured this out early today when I ran Graal before fixing my problem with those drivers and things were fine (going into fullscreen fixed the problem instantly). After getting XP to recognize my WDM drivers, Graal reverted to ignoring transparent colors (going in fullscreen solves it for the most part, but showimg text does not show).

Perhaps this would better aid in resolving this issue I am having?
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Sounds like V3 will cure what ails you
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Sounds like V3 will cure what ails you
Sounds like it

How much longer must I wait, though?
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Sounds like it

How much longer must I wait, though?

If you're a VIP:

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Else:

No idea.
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Sorry that I have not replied earlier. It is probably a problem of the driver or you migh switch to a different color resolution. The Windows v3 will be released once the Mac thing is finished (1-2 days afterwards, hopefully this week).
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Sorry that I have not replied earlier. It is probably a problem of the driver or you migh switch to a different color resolution. The Windows v3 will be released once the Mac thing is finished (1-2 days afterwards, hopefully this week).
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