Real time Craftables

Selzar · #1 02-27-2003, 08:01 AM

I was thinking..
maybe have these things on every kingdom island/ and main.
Maybe on some parts of land there would be a slot for something.
And a shop would be selling Windmill Flag, Shop Flag, Boat Crafter Flag, or just a plain NPC house.

When you find an empty slot on the lands of Graal.
You would drop 1 of those flags on the slot.
then it would require materials to make one of those things.
And for shops it would be a generated level with an NPC and items to sell.
It would require ALLLLLOT of materials.
Lets see 10,000 boards, and like 500 nails. For all of these.
Because it would be PERMANENT.

Just my 2 cents.
Would be a great time experience in graal kingdoms.

Tyhm · #2 02-27-2003, 08:23 AM

Kings can already order these things for free - that's how the ruddy Zorms got all that stuff. It's too hard to make something like this which is used so infrequently.

Kaiser2 · #3 02-27-2003, 08:12 PM

Zormites rock, so ****, Thym XD
I think this is a good idea, that way we can have more shops and stuff, but it'd need an upkeep, like, being repaired and stuff.

Selzar · #4 02-28-2003, 04:07 AM

It's not gonna be a walk in the park...
your basically making something that will stay there FOREVER.
But will need to be prepared.
The level will show cracks and such showing it is breaking.

Kaiser2 · #5 02-28-2003, 05:30 AM

This wouldn't be a bad idea, there could be set interior levels, and a certain amount of a type of building that can be made, so there can exist 5 player made shops, 10 windmills, so on, and so forth, with the number being determined by how useful the building is, and there would be only certain points that can be have a certain building placed.

Tyhm · #6 02-28-2003, 05:30 AM

On the other hand - a working oven, water barrel, and anvils should be smithable. You could turn your own home into a private smithy. Your home blue-anvil could smith anything that any blue-anvil anywhere can smith (possibly requiring that you've seen it since this becomes implimented)...maybe not, since the window has limited space and nagging Stefan to totally rescript it is a bad idea. Something like that would be good though - your gray-anvil lets you craft anything out of hotiron, watering cans, blades, plates, nails; you can get one of several types of blueanvils to make your own crossbows and bolts, or your own armor, shields, tools, helmets...standard smithables only of course...all the good swords...
You can get a Kitchen Table and a Bread Oven, you can get a Joinery or Tanning table...I mean why not? If we can make our homes into shops, why not smithies?

Windmills, woodmills and shipwrighteries would be the only things lacking, and they're fairly well balanced as placed.

Kaiser2 · #7 02-28-2003, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by Tyhm
On the other hand - a working oven, water barrel, and anvils should be smithable. You could turn your own home into a private smithy. Your home blue-anvil could smith anything that any blue-anvil anywhere can smith (possibly requiring that you've seen it since this becomes implimented)...maybe not, since the window has limited space and nagging Stefan to totally rescript it is a bad idea. Something like that would be good though - your gray-anvil lets you craft anything out of hotiron, watering cans, blades, plates, nails; you can get one of several types of blueanvils to make your own crossbows and bolts, or your own armor, shields, tools, helmets...standard smithables only of course...all the good swords...
You can get a Kitchen Table and a Bread Oven, you can get a Joinery or Tanning table...I mean why not? If we can make our homes into shops, why not smithies?

Windmills, woodmills and shipwrighteries would be the only things lacking, and they're fairly well balanced as placed.

Well, for the smithy idea, it should be that if you have the item in your possession or something. That way, those rare event weapons and armor can be mass produced, but Stefan wold need to set what it's made of and stuff. For example, a Diamond Force would be made out of a diamond blade and some pearls, or something. Then, the Inferno Sword is made of a Diamond Force, Fire sword, and 5 rubies, you know? It's like alchemy, except for armor and weapons, and not alchemy armors and stuff. And if you get black anvils, then you should be able to make the things which you heat iron on.

graaliholic · #8 02-28-2003, 06:23 AM

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Originally posted by Tyhm
maybe not, since the window has limited space and nagging Stefan to totally rescript it is a bad idea

Have you seen the carpet smithing place on samurai? It's got more kinds of carpts than it can hold, and it has arrows so you can scroll around, like your inventory.

Selzar · #9 02-28-2003, 06:36 AM

Also for the real craftable, maybe for the HOUSE SLOT, when you build a house there will be an NPC in there.
And he will have a quest for you.
So basically it wouldn't be a waste making a useless npc house.
There would be quests for you in the house waiting from the 1 npc.
1 Quest per NPC House.

graaliholic · #10 02-28-2003, 06:39 AM

Then there would be too many quest houses.

Tyhm · #11 02-28-2003, 06:53 AM

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Originally posted by graaliholic

Have you seen the carpet smithing place on samurai? It's got more kinds of carpts than it can hold, and it has arrows so you can scroll around, like your inventory.

Oh. Kay then. It could all fit on one blue anvil. ^_^

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Originally posted by Kaiser2

Well, for the smithy idea, it should be that if you have the item in your possession or something. That way, those rare event weapons and armor can be mass produced, but Stefan wold need to set what it's made of and stuff. For example, a Diamond Force would be made out of a diamond blade and some pearls, or something. Then, the Inferno Sword is made of a Diamond Force, Fire sword, and 5 rubies, you know? It's like alchemy, except for armor and weapons, and not alchemy armors and stuff.

That could be bad. We're not sure those weapons should ever have been added in the first place, as they just made the strong yet stronger. Letting anyone with a hammer make and sell hammers makes the strong and rich stronger and richer by allowing them to make and sell uberpowerful weapons for massive ammounts of money, to buy more IWDs, to become more powerful....

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Originally posted by Kaiser2

And if you get black anvils, then you should be able to make the things which you heat iron on.

I believe I mentioned that, a working oven?

graaliholic · #12 02-28-2003, 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by Tyhm
I believe I mentioned that, a working oven?

I was just telling you that the crafted item list can grow beyond what you can actually see, i thought you thought that they were of limited size x-x. anyway, maybe you should have to have smithing to have your own private smithery, or atleast recipes like alchemy.

Selzar · #13 02-28-2003, 07:27 AM

der wud be a limit on these houses...
also monsters cud destroy them and maybe fires would occur so people would have to get water cans and water it so it doesnt destroy

Tyhm · #14 02-28-2003, 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by graaliholic

I was just telling you that the crafted item list can grow beyond what you can actually see, i thought you thought that they were of limited size x-x. anyway, maybe you should have to have smithing to have your own private smithery, or atleast recipes like alchemy.

G'ah, I had the wrong responses to the wrong quotes. *fixes*

Kaiser2 · #15 03-01-2003, 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by Tyhm

That could be bad. We're not sure those weapons should ever have been added in the first place, as they just made the strong yet stronger. Letting anyone with a hammer make and sell hammers makes the strong and rich stronger and richer by allowing them to make and sell uberpowerful weapons for massive ammounts of money, to buy more IWDs, to become more powerful....

Well, event items are there, and if they weren't meant to be, they no longer would. Also, as more can produce the rarer items, then the lower its value goes. Look at it his way.
A has a hammer, he makes more and sells it to B,C and D.
A,B,C, and D can now make hammers. They sell to E-Z. Since A-Z can make hammers for cheap, but can't get buyers, they drop the prices.