Discipline

[Mark Sir Link]

This is a change I would like to see on all official worlds, meaning Gold/Classic/Hosted tab servers.

If a player has been disciplined by jailing or banning within the past 2 weeks (I'd be inclined to say even more), they should not be able to use any staff tag that will list them under staff on the playerlist.

Why should someone who has proven extremely recently that they are unable to behave themselves serve as a representative for their server? Players, especially new players who need help the most, are most likely going to contact someone under the Staff section of the playerlist. Why leave them to someone who has demonstrated recently that they cannot behave in a professional manner?

[kia345]

Because not every server has the most competent GPs/management. The fact that staff can get punished and not have that as a strike against their job is evidence enough without having to point any fingers.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by kia345

Because not every server has the most competent GPs/management. The fact that staff can get punished and not have that as a strike against their job is evidence enough without having to point any fingers.

I don't understand your second sentence, as I am making a suggestion to implement a system where staff will have a strike against their job when punished.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

I don't understand your second sentence, as I am making a suggestion to implement a system where staff will have a strike against their job when punished.

I'm saying that should already be the case and the fact that it's not speaks volumes about managers' incompetence.

[fowlplay4]

This sounds like a UN-specific problem.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

This sounds like a UN-specific problem.

Yep.

If staff are misbehaving that badly then perhaps their role as staff should be reconsidered?
It gets tricky when dealing with development staff though because there is a shortage of quality developers.
On Era most developers only wear a (Working) tag, which is more of a tool than something to show off; it makes them invulnerable but also disables all of their weapons so that it can't be abused.

There isn't much else you can do because they are unpaid volunteers. In the end I guess you get what you pay for.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

This sounds like a UN-specific problem.

sounds like one, but alas, is not.

and I mean wearing a staff tag in any capacity, including temporary tags.

[cbk1994]

Wouldn't you fire any staff member if they get jailed/banned/punished? I can't imagine keeping someone after that, even if it was a small thing. As much as I'm being a hypocrite, it just makes sense that staff should be model players. I've never seen this on any server, so I guess it must be a UN problem.

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

On Era most developers only wear a (Working) tag, which is more of a tool than something to show off; it makes them invulnerable but also disables all of their weapons so that it can't be abused

It also isn't in the staff list, which is more for the purpose of not getting annoyed to death by PMs, though.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

Why should someone who has proven extremely recently that they are unable to behave themselves serve as a representative for their server?

I like your careful choice of words, because you were once such a person. And I'm not talking about just one instance either.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

which is more for the purpose of not getting annoyed to death by PMs

Or by gunshots

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Crow

Or by gunshots

I was talking just about not being on the staff list .

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

sounds like one, but alas, is not.

and I mean wearing a staff tag in any capacity, including temporary tags.

Based on this I guess you're targeting almost exclusively Events Team staff?
They're the most likely to screw around, but also the most easily replaced.
Just fire them and let them reapply next hiring round.

Development staff aren't going to be affected by not having a tag.
And GPs/PRs/FAQs will just be that much more likely to not do their job during the time they don't have their tag, since visibility is part of their role.
So that just leaves Events Team.

No point creating this rule just for Events Team.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Based on this I guess you're targeting almost exclusively Events Team staff?
They're the most likely to screw around, but also the most easily replaced.
Just fire them and let them reapply next hiring round.

No point creating this rule just for Events Team.

I highly agree with your first statement, Events Team are in a way supposed to goof off, be an enjoyable host to be around. Things like this are what make events a lot of fun for people, as to where it can be a double edged sword and they take it too far by some forms of abuse and etc. Speaking out of pure experience here :P

I think discipline isn't the right way to go as well. Perhaps you should just buckle a little more down on the events staff if such a problem is occurring. There was a major GP issue as well but I believe GP standards have also gone up a little bit as well for UN.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Crono

I like your careful choice of words, because you were once such a person. And I'm not talking about just one instance either.

how careful? Up until March, the last time I played Graal in any real capacity was at least a year previous to then.

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Based on this I guess you're targeting almost exclusively Events Team staff?
They're the most likely to screw around, but also the most easily replaced.
Just fire them and let them reapply next hiring round.

Not at all. It seems like non-development staff are more prone to bad behavior but this isn't always the case.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

This sounds like a UN-specific problem.

if shimmy hires me back after i get back home, then it won't be UN-specific anymore ^___^