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Old 04-12-2001, 06:14 AM
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How do graalians go so fast? they go faster than if they had level 3 shield. All they say is that they have dsl. Boy 10 people have gotten DSL in the past week what program are you all using just curious.
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Old 04-12-2001, 06:30 AM
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I've seen and jailed a few people for speed-cheating.
Of course they admitted to it stupidly in an attempt to get released.
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Old 04-12-2001, 06:45 AM
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I don't really see why a speed hack is necessary.
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Old 04-12-2001, 07:11 AM
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They use it most of the time in sparring, and most events. (especially races... I was surprised when someone beat me by two screens during swimming)
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Old 04-12-2001, 07:13 AM
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Im slow and proud of it!
Anyway there really isnt a reason to it's just well dumb to try and win something by cheating
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Old 04-12-2001, 07:25 AM
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Once Heyhost was speedhacking and flying around swinging and walking MUCH faster than me, and he told the police he had a T3, AND he got away with it.
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Old 04-12-2001, 07:27 AM
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uhh is it legal if you are just having fun like walk around the n00b 200 times faster than a normal graal chericter?
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Old 04-12-2001, 07:29 AM
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Old 04-12-2001, 07:30 AM
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or just to get around fasteR
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Old 04-12-2001, 07:32 AM
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If it were legal, wouldn't they have released a super fast Lizard Shield?
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Old 04-12-2001, 07:36 AM
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Lizard shield would be a nice addition to the server, anytime
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Old 04-12-2001, 09:27 AM
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I like cheese there needs to be a cheese shield!
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Old 04-12-2001, 09:35 AM
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It is called the "Speed Cheat" and for using it anywhere you can be jailed, if you read the rules about hacking it says NO HACKING IS ALOWED and this counts as a hack
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Old 04-12-2001, 09:36 AM
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It is called the "Speed Cheat" and for using it anywhere you can be jailed, if you read the rules about hacking it says NO HACKING IS ALOWED and this counts as a hack
Why is this a hack?..it just speeds up your system clock or something like that..it has nothing to do with the game.
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Old 04-12-2001, 12:29 PM
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I KNEW IT! I knew there were people speed hacking! Today I was in a survivor event and one @$$hole was running SUPER FAST! I told the member of ET who was running the event and he said "well some people have pentium 4" GIVE ME A BREAK! I think I know a speed hack when I see one! A number of other people were in the event and nobody else complained. WHY NOT? It pisses me off, people cheat and *****s are too dumb to even spot cheating. Put me on ET and we'll see who gets away with it then

P.S. Even though someone was cheating I still won the event, go me!
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Old 04-12-2001, 12:32 PM
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HEY! Zulithe is fishing my very first bomy in his signature! >=(
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Old 04-12-2001, 12:32 PM
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I KNEW IT! I knew there were people speed hacking! Today I was in a survivor event and one @$$hole was running SUPER FAST! I told the member of ET who was running the event and he said "well some people have pentium 4" GIVE ME A BEAK! I think I know a speed hack when I see one! A number of other people were in the event and nobody else compliaind. WHY NOT? It pisses me off, people cheat and *****s are too dumb to even spot cheating. Put me on ET and we'll see who gets away with it then

P.S. Even though someone was cheating I still won the event, go me!
sure i'll give you a peak....Here *hands Zulithe a beak*
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Old 04-12-2001, 12:33 PM
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Not only am I fishing it but I'm gonna grill it! If you want, you can have first dibs on the piece of your choice.
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Old 04-12-2001, 12:34 PM
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hey Valder don't make fun of my typos ::cries::
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Old 04-12-2001, 12:37 PM
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I told the member of ET who was running the event and he said "well some people have pentium 4"
And, the Athlon Thunderbirds outperformed the Pentium 4s in most benchmarking tests.
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Old 04-12-2001, 12:39 PM
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Old 04-12-2001, 12:45 PM
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Old 04-12-2001, 01:07 PM
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I was with Zulithe in that spar tournament.....one of the fast people was Redflair.....if i was not in the water....he was on me like the plague........us bomys need like special shoes we can go on a quest for that speeds us up by a little.....so that we can at least move at a more decent speed........but that might be asking for too much, lol
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Old 04-12-2001, 01:11 PM
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Thanks for posting G-Yoshi, and you are right it was Redflair (and he was not punished for it either)
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Old 04-12-2001, 01:16 PM
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It's kind of a sketchy issue, the person doesn't really hack Graal, they hack their system.

But processor/connection speed has nothing to do with it- Graal is timed, like most programs, to the cycling of your system clock, so it doesn't matter if you benchmarked 20 times faster than me and you were hooked straight into the Graal2001 server, you'd still go the same speed.
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Old 04-12-2001, 01:18 PM
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Dante, you're not on ICQ >:(
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Old 04-12-2001, 01:28 PM
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It's a hack or something to do with your computers RTC, it really isn't good for it.
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Old 04-12-2001, 01:29 PM
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Yes Dante that is my point, it wouldn't matter if he had a pentium 4 or not (I myself have an 800mhz AMD Athlon and you don't see me running around at 4x human speed)

While not technically a hack of the Graal software (I don't know how this is done so I will take your word for it) it is still a "modification" that gives them a severe and unfair advantage over other players and provides him with something no other *honest* player has, which is enhanced speed. Players doing this do it knowing that it will give them enhanced speed and they know it is cheating (be it hacking or not technically, it is still cheating) so... I just think that everyone including members of Police, ET et al should be aware of this cheat so that they can deal with it acordingly given the possibility that they enounter someone taking advantage of the loophole. As long as there are games, there will be cheaters, so we gotta keep our eyes open and be aware. Speaking of cheating, has the fishing cheat been fixed?
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Old 04-12-2001, 01:31 PM
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Fishing cheat is gone.

I think Zulithe has the right point. It may or may not be hacking, but it is definitely cheating.
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Old 04-12-2001, 01:42 PM
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Thanks for the heads up Dante. I saw someone using it a few days ago (before I knew that the cheat even existed) he would catch a fish and then disconnect, he did this several times and I asked him what was wrong. He told me he was having conectivity issues and that people kept calling his house which disconnected him LOL, what a liar.
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Old 04-12-2001, 01:46 PM
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The fishing cheat killed my wealth- I was by far the richest individual on Graal before that... even including the people who had gotten money from Ice Pick when he splurged to avoid being audited by Unixmad.
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Old 04-12-2001, 07:08 PM
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Blah.

I occasionally go a slight but faster then other people, but that is so little that it's near too unnoticeable, and besides I lag so much that it's hard to notice the difference.
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Old 04-12-2001, 07:14 PM
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yes... a program named Taskinfo enables you to prioritize programs, you can get Graal to use 100% of your cpu usage with it... it just makes it near impossible to do anything else on your computer so I never use it now. I used it when I had a 3web free interent thing, which included 2 flash adds at the top of the screen always, so I had to prioritze graal and slow down 3web, but with 2 flash adds I was still the laggiest graal player.
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Old 04-12-2001, 09:58 PM
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Graphics processing slowness can make you slower than other players, and lag can make you seem slower- even though you actually aren't, but nothing but a tweak will make you actually faster than what you're supposed to be.
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Old 04-12-2001, 10:06 PM
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damn cheaters. if i were police i'd lock em all up
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Old 04-12-2001, 10:48 PM
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Old 04-13-2001, 01:47 AM
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Let's see what DMX has to say about this. I still think it's wrong, however..
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Old 04-13-2001, 02:06 AM
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I'm sure the police will jail the cheaters, but jail isn't enough.
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