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Old 10-04-2004, 04:25 PM
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So, since it isn't allowed on the "blacklist" page, we'll take our "differences" here.

First of all to my dear friend Padren: if you didn't know yet, i'm a random person, and sometimes I feel like saying odd things to lighten the mood, sort of like a "comic relief" in tense situations.

Now, let us get onto the REAL stuff. As I was explaining the Satrek yesterday (who was miraculously online) I left the kingdom the first time because I married Slade who was the Emperor or KJ at the time. Even though my tag said KJ I was still treated as a citizen of Dustari and even took place in Kingdom events.

(sidenote: if any of you *didn't* know yet, I was "cheating" on Slade with John because Slade was: a) a loser b) never around c) I never saw much affection from him. John actually: a) cared about me b) spent time with me c)told me how much he cared about me each day d) was/still is a great guy...end note)

Continuing, at the kingdom event in which Prince Zain told us about where he'd been and the story of the Ethereal Knights, John had proposed to me and yadayada...some many fights and stuff later we were married on Valentine's Day. Padren and Ana were there to congradulate me into COMING BACK into the kingdom. They NEVER treated me as an outsider at this point and it had seemed like I had never "left."

So, for the big one now. To explain why I "left" the "second" time, this was the first actual time I had left Dustari of my own free will. And, it all came down to her highness Zoe. In short, I left because I did not approve of Zoe's "level bugging", or her "summoning of reapers" with Akira or the "mysterious" stacks of brutals she aquired from "various" staff members. PLUS, in my opinion she was turning out to be another Tseng who was never around or did much with Kingdom events. However, war breaks out and everyone goes psycho. What REALLY made me leave was the above reasons PLUS, during the war her "bugging buddies" (Wren, Akira, etc.) had ganged up on Nayoko who was the first person to ever give a damn about me on Kingdoms when i first started and had accused HER of cheating! Nayoko is the most honest person I have ever met and is like a second mother to me (since i'm not "greatly" fond of my irl mother i'd actually prefer her). They had also attacked her kingdom which (from what I had heard, I had not been there, clear it up if you wish) did NOTHING.

In saying: NO RULER SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO ATTACK OTHERS FOR NO APPARENT CAUSE. THEY SHOULD ALSO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THE MEMBERS IN WHICH THEY RULE AND PLAY BY THE RULES THEMSELVES.

Seeing Zoe as an unfit ruler, I left. Padren and Ana have been my friends for a very long time and in leaving I was sad to leave them and then tell me that I was an "enemy." But what REALLY knocked the boat on all of this was when I left Dustari, I was presently on my way to Borea. After reaching the shores I was stopped by Zoe AND Wren and was then scrutinized, called a "traitor" and MANY other things. Zoe then also proceded to MOVE MY HOUSE INTO THE OCEAN AS I WAS INSIDE IT! So...where's the great ruler hmm? Or the manners? THAT is why I left.

Now that Zoe has stepped down I wanted to return because:

a) The tension was over and things are peaceful again
b) I want to go back to the kingdom in which my friends are in and not be treated as a piece of vile scum
c) I want to be with John. I couldn't care less about the Sagesun name, you can keep it. I don't want nor need the power or authority that comes with its name.

All I ask is to live peacefully with my husband in a kingdom that accepts me, accepts us (John and I) and will let me be me! I don't even care if I was a citizen forever, I just want to be with the people whom I call my friends.
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Old 10-04-2004, 07:48 PM
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Old 10-05-2004, 04:38 AM
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I left because I did not approve of Zoe's "level bugging", or her "summoning of reapers" with Akira or the "mysterious" stacks of brutals she aquired from "various" staff members.
Hi Myloko. My name is Hurumi. I made those reapers. At least now you can get off Zoe's back for that one. Lance took away more levels from that than the actual exp. acquired. I hope you are happy.

As for the brutals, you can ask Nayoko. She should know where they came from, as she did some herself, and its just not her, there are many people that done them. As for where they're from, I don't think we need to explain ourselves to prove we're not guilty. We don't really care about you knowing or not that much.

Like Ana mentioned, you did leave twice, even though I guess, you had reasons behind it. But like ana said, that doesn't prove your loyalty because there is a -possibility- that you will leave again; are there any reasons that will prove you won't leave again? So one of the reasons why you left was because Wren/Zoe/Aki,etc. were ganging up on Nay. You realized those people are still around no? What makes us think you won't leave again next time they start 'pking' Nayoko again?
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Old 10-05-2004, 05:22 AM
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Explain what proof of this "level bugging" you have. And Zoe had stacked brutals for a reason... there is this long period of time where Zoe leveled her wisdom level very high and monopolized the weapon blessing market. She simply accumulated a very large amount of maps... now this large amount of maps led to her inventory getting bugged... since inventories aren't exactly the most reliable thing... staff had to estimate how many maps she had and go from there... this was prolly 1.5-2 years ago. Mind you that the massave platinum coin inflation didn't happen yet. So she could bless someone's weapon for 50 dias... make 50 diamond blades and bless them all for cash.
That pretty much explains Zoe... mass collection of wealth from monopolization during low inflation times... I remember she used to be doing maps for hours EVERY DAY...
Lets not forget... at the time... Tecumseh was reaching level 100... plenty ahead if Zoe...

Her kingdom activity was a result of her having to deal with real life... it happens to all of us sometimes and we don't always have a chance to tell anyone on an online game about it.

Akira and Hurumi got their Brutal maps from me... If you want to know where they came from... Forum PM me... and if you REALLY want to push it further... I can always host a public burning of 100 brutal maps so people would stop pestering about it. Hm?

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In saying: NO RULER SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO ATTACK OTHERS FOR NO APPARENT CAUSE. THEY SHOULD ALSO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THE MEMBERS IN WHICH THEY RULE AND PLAY BY THE RULES THEMSELVES.
A ruler who sits and lets his/her kingdom be under attack? Lets set an example on how to let us get mowed over my a pair of scissors... *end sarcasm and harsh offense* You're saying that we HAVE to abide to some unorigional rule about rulers not attacking with their own sword. Tell that to Nayoko first as well. A few weeks ago she used to be running into Bomboria trade on tag with sword drawn and causing trouble.

Now... lets redefine a monarchy... If there is a King and a Queen... then the dominant ruler is the King... correct? The normal role of the Queen is being the King's wife... yes?

Next... I cannot explain why Zoe and Wren did that... but I believe they like to emphasize how thin the line is between loyal and disloyal... but maybe the house thing was a little overboard since we see people selling Dustari houses to people all the time...

If I need to explain something more... do tell.

Edit: Ugh... and I feel like I made some sort of stupid mistake... just a feeling...
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Old 10-05-2004, 09:05 AM
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So, for the big one now. To explain why I "left" the "second" time, this was the first actual time I had left Dustari of my own free will. And, it all came down to her highness Zoe. In short, I left because I did not approve of Zoe's "level bugging", or her "summoning of reapers" with Akira or the "mysterious" stacks of brutals she aquired from "various" staff members. PLUS, in my opinion she was turning out to be another Tseng who was never around or did much with Kingdom events. However, war breaks out and everyone goes psycho. What REALLY made me leave was the above reasons PLUS, during the war her "bugging buddies" (Wren, Akira, etc.) had ganged up on Nayoko who was the first person to ever give a damn about me on Kingdoms when i first started and had accused HER of cheating! Nayoko is the most honest person I have ever met and is like a second mother to me (since i'm not "greatly" fond of my irl mother i'd actually prefer her). They had also attacked her kingdom which (from what I had heard, I had not been there, clear it up if you wish) did NOTHING.
Bonjour madam. Hmmm where did you hear this from? I know....NAYOKO! Talking about stacked brutals, don't tell me Nayoko complained. Cause she did it herself. I bet 98% of the server has anyway.
Yeah, I admit what I did with Hurumi was really wrong, and was punished with exp taken away which was more than I even gained. Fair punishment I would say.

Hell with you and your accusations, why you bashing at Zoe now? Cause you have some personal issues against her? Per-lease...... keep facts and personal issues separate. Hmmm 'bugging buddy' Wren? Just cause Wren is her friend means she bugs? So whoever is friends with Zoe, supposely cheat? I prefer you used my name than hers, since she didn't even do a damn thing. Even I did worse things. So yeah, blame me.

We don't need your story life with Nayoko. Honest...honest.... the word honest and Nayoko doesn't fit together, sorry. I tried arranging an RP war with her, she agreed, then declined when a Dustrian killed her OOC. Stupid huh? I would think so.

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In saying: NO RULER SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO ATTACK OTHERS FOR NO APPARENT CAUSE. THEY SHOULD ALSO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THE MEMBERS IN WHICH THEY RULE AND PLAY BY THE RULES THEMSELVES.
Rulers are players as well. They are simple players, just like everyone else. And the attacking is OFF tag. If you can't take the heat, step outside.
So, in saying: GET OFF BMODE IF YOU CAN'T TAKE A PK!
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So, since it isn't allowed on the "blacklist" page, we'll take our "differences" here.

First of all to my dear friend Padren: if you didn't know yet, i'm a random person, and sometimes I feel like saying odd things to lighten the mood, sort of like a "comic relief" in tense situations.
Then don't be indignent when your comments don't make sense to others.

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Now, let us get onto the REAL stuff. As I was explaining the Satrek yesterday (who was miraculously online) I left the kingdom the first time because I married Slade who was the Emperor or KJ at the time. Even though my tag said KJ I was still treated as a citizen of Dustari and even took place in Kingdom events.


(sidenote: if any of you *didn't* know yet, I was "cheating" on Slade with John because Slade was: a) a loser b) never around c) I never saw much affection from him. John actually: a) cared about me b) spent time with me c)told me how much he cared about me each day d) was/still is a great guy...end note)
I remember when you left Dustari to marry slade, as I recall, you knew his rank better than his name. You had acted in a manner that gave me the impression you were a 'social climber' when you would mention you were marrying a prominent dustarian whom when I talked to later, never had suggested such a thing to you. I got the impression whomever your next betrothed was to be, it would be natrually of rank. And indeed, you dropped dustari in a second to wed an emperor.

Still, you never get to see people's redeeming qualities if you just shut them out the first time they do something that bothers you, so I think a lot of people who were put off by those actions of yours still treated you as a friend.

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Continuing, at the kingdom event in which Prince Zain told us about where he'd been and the story of the Ethereal Knights, John had proposed to me and yadayada...some many fights and stuff later we were married on Valentine's Day. Padren and Ana were there to congradulate me into COMING BACK into the kingdom. They NEVER treated me as an outsider at this point and it had seemed like I had never "left."
I remember that event and your presense, that is when you kept droning on about climbing ranks and how you wanted to be the archmage, attacked the reputations of those mages above you (whom of course were not present) and all that. It left me feeling sick actually.

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So, for the big one now. To explain why I "left" the "second" time, this was the first actual time I had left Dustari of my own free will. And, it all came down to her highness Zoe. In short, I left because I did not approve of Zoe's "level bugging", or her "summoning of reapers" with Akira or the "mysterious" stacks of brutals she aquired from "various" staff members.
You just said above you left the first time to marry slade - who forced you to do that? What do you mean by the 'first actual time...own free will?'

I recall you were a bit unhappy with not getting higher promotions, the stop on the increase of your rank was on my order until you demonstrated more mature behavior, which never ended up happening. I always considered you like family, and made an effort to help you and give you more chances than most, partly because I really wanted you to work out well in dustari for John's benefit, whom I consider a very good friend.

About Zoe's level, honestly you are being opportunistic, seeking a more flattering 'noble' reason for your second departure other than simple rank envy.

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PLUS, in my opinion she was turning out to be another Tseng who was never around or did much with Kingdom events. However, war breaks out and everyone goes psycho. What REALLY made me leave was the above reasons PLUS, during the war her "bugging buddies" (Wren, Akira, etc.) had ganged up on Nayoko who was the first person to ever give a damn about me on Kingdoms when i first started and had accused HER of cheating! Nayoko is the most honest person I have ever met and is like a second mother to me (since i'm not "greatly" fond of my irl mother i'd actually prefer her). They had also attacked her kingdom which (from what I had heard, I had not been there, clear it up if you wish) did NOTHING.
Zoe has done incredible amounts of work for dustari, and for everyone in graal too (I remember her working her fingers numb for a whole day blessing stuff for anyone who asked, for free. She was exhausted but didn't want to go offline because she'd have to let people down who had been waiting).
I am not going to turn this into 'vs tseng's record' bash fest, but you are again being opportunistic. Everyone knows how hard zoe worked including you.

Regarding Nayoko, don't make me laugh quite so hard. Ask her about the time she begged me not to let the staff know about the bugged KJ boots, the money making bugs or the her grubbing to get the dupped items off her banned hubby's account on RC.

Ask her about how when I tried time and agian to get her to actually deal with her kingdom who harassed dustarians constantly, she made excuses and even said that 'her own members steal lords from her against her dispite her efforts' - as if them treating her like trash somehow made it okay to treat other people like trash too.

Nayoko is the farthest thing from a person I would respect, let alone consider honest. Oh, and in nay's own words, when I confronted her most recently about 'her CHEATING' (such gall I must have to acuse a true dove of these things) her excuse was to simply retort that 'they were defensive' and I guess, somehow okay.

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In saying: NO RULER SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO ATTACK OTHERS FOR NO APPARENT CAUSE. THEY SHOULD ALSO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THE MEMBERS IN WHICH THEY RULE AND PLAY BY THE RULES THEMSELVES.
Then KJ should have left us the heck alone. Just because you can't see the cause doesn't mean you are right, or even have your eyes open.

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Seeing Zoe as an unfit ruler, I left. Padren and Ana have been my friends for a very long time and in leaving I was sad to leave them and then tell me that I was an "enemy." But what REALLY knocked the boat on all of this was when I left Dustari, I was presently on my way to Borea. After reaching the shores I was stopped by Zoe AND Wren and was then scrutinized, called a "traitor" and MANY other things. Zoe then also proceded to MOVE MY HOUSE INTO THE OCEAN AS I WAS INSIDE IT! So...where's the great ruler hmm? Or the manners? THAT is why I left.
You should really reflect on your own actions sometimes when you wonder why you get under people's nerves so deeply. You were given so many chances and encouragement in hopes you would outgrow your rank clawing tendancies and just start being a part of Dustari without attacking your mentors and grabbing for their ranks.


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Now that Zoe has stepped down I wanted to return because:

a) The tension was over and things are peaceful again
b) I want to go back to the kingdom in which my friends are in and not be treated as a piece of vile scum
c) I want to be with John. I couldn't care less about the Sagesun name, you can keep it. I don't want nor need the power or authority that comes with its name.
before a) Zoe has stepped down but she is the Queen mother you know...

a) we are still at war with KJ.
b) You have a funny way of showing your fondness for a kingdom. You don't improve your case by throwing a tantrum and belittling so many of our members.
c) I like John very much, he is a good friend of mine. You do not make things easier on anyone though for the reasons stated in b.

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All I ask is to live peacefully with my husband in a kingdom that accepts me, accepts us (John and I) and will let me be me! I don't even care if I was a citizen forever, I just want to be with the people whom I call my friends.
You do not help that by attacking everyone in the kingdom you profess you wish to live in. One minute you want to join and the next you are condemming us for a thousand things. Zoe didn't cause this problem, nor ana nor myself - you need to look to your own behavior once in a while.

If you ask me, this whole thread sucks, this fighting sucks, fighting with you sucks, but you don't just make a thread like this and expect people to let your BS stand. Get a grip, get over it, and do what little you can what you have left yourself with. I honestly do wish you well and hope you find the best solution you can out of this. It won't involve attacking the people who aren't the cause of your problem though.


Note: I do appreciate you making a seperate thread outside of the blacklist for this topic, btw.
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Probably best to just grow up, play the game and stop finding so much fault in your own discontentment.

Good Luck to you Myloko - but no, you will never be in Dustari again with your attitude toward its members.

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I had sat here in school today writting for about ½ an hour...and when I went to post it, I was logged out X_x, so, I just lost EVERYTHING *dies* of that just so sucked...along with my cold right now, I think everything just SUCKS, because you never do something twice and have it still be as good, THANK YOU MR. BOHR, MR. COULOMB, AND STATIC ELECTRICITY FOR FRYING MY BRAIN! XD And thank you Padren for your kind comments

So...let me make this sort...i'm running now and caring/energy cells right now...I don't think the normal person has much at 10am to begin with...SO!

1) Any rumors/tips/etc i receive about players I get from JOHN, I talk to him everynight, long distance on the phone. he is my friend and he is also more than that.

2) I didn't just pack up and leave the first time, I asked the permission of...I actually forget now, to leave, possibly Padren, and he said "sure ok, have fun", so...Iono, I guess I had "fun"

3) Zoe may be queen mother, but she is no longer the head ruler, that is Ana's job and her's only. She may "asisst" Ana, but she can no longer make primary descisions.

4) I have no attitude twoards any members in Dustari. I may "dislike" certain individuals for their prior actions, but I do not give them "attitude."

5) let's quote some crock from my religion text book on "maturity":

Mature (verb, adjective, adverb): "People can only fully mature once they stop blaming others for their own actions and begin to see the world through the eyes of God."

If you are not Jewish/Christian/Muslim, you may omit the last line. So, where did I blame someone? looking through this thread, I can see many times where people are blaming others, but where did I blame? I did not blame my leaving on Zoe, I gave reasons why I left but I never said "I blame Zoe because she screwed up my life and is a total *****." (which by the way, I don't think is true).

6) THANK SOME GODS UP THERE THAT SOMEONE FINALLY ADMITTED THAT THEY DID SOMETHING WRONG! hugs to Akira for that. We're all human and we all make mistakes. So, put your fingers away and pull our your own maturity hats and STICK EM ON YER HEAD, NOT YER BUTT! *gets out a diagram of the human body and a pointer stick* The brain is HERE! *points to the head* not HERE like my mom sometimes says! *points to the anus* So, lets all settle this like the mature adults/teenagers/preteens/etc. that we are and stop saying "BUT SHE/HE DID IT! GIMME MY LOLLY!" lollypops MAY be tasty, but they are NOT NEEDED HERE!

In this discussion, would also like to thank my friend "pinky" who keeps me sane everyday, 30mg at a time
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Bonjour madam. Hmmm where did you hear this from? I know....NAYOKO! Talking about stacked brutals, don't tell me Nayoko complained. Cause she did it herself. I bet 98% of the server has anyway.
Yeah, I admit what I did with Hurumi was really wrong, and was punished with exp taken away which was more than I even gained. Fair punishment I would say.

We don't need your story life with Nayoko. Honest...honest.... the word honest and Nayoko doesn't fit together, sorry. I tried arranging an RP war with her, she agreed, then declined when a Dustrian killed her OOC. Stupid huh? I would think so.



Rulers are players as well. They are simple players, just like everyone else. And the attacking is OFF tag. If you can't take the heat, step outside.
So, in saying: GET OFF BMODE IF YOU CAN'T TAKE A PK!


First of all, Yes ive done stacked brutals I was given/trade by high ranking members from Dustari/Zormite. I had no choice in the manner they were given to me. It's not like they asked "I will trade you 8 stacked brutals for such and such" . Sometimes i've bought seperate brutals from different players and find that they stack in my inventory. But none of the Brutals i've done have been GIVEN to me by staff, unlike Zoe, Wren, Aki, and Hurami.
Why don't you all just grow up and admit what you have done is wrong and get over it. And stop trying to shift the blame on me by saying if I did them it makes it ok that you did them. Pointing your dirty fingers at me don't make it right. And you have to admit you had been spawned many more grimreapers before you ever were caught. And why do you point your fingers at me? Do you think the whole server is blind?

As far as RP war, what would be the idea? You all don't know how to RP and your mechanical physical levels are so high it would be like trying to fight an elephant with a toothpick. So why waste our time?
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I though we were talking about me wanting to be in Dustari...personally this is a better whack to watch, so, continue
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Fair punishment I would say.
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I don't see the point of continuing that argument, Nayoko.
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Now that Zoe has stepped down I wanted to return because:

a) The tension was over and things are peaceful again
b) I want to go back to the kingdom in which my friends are in and not be treated as a piece of vile scum
c) I want to be with John. I couldn't care less about the Sagesun name, you can keep it. I don't want nor need the power or authority that comes with its name.
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1) Vilescum? I took you back in honor , gave you Fire Mage title no
questions, and helped you other ways. My repayment was your
disappearence and when you did come back , you left. You err in your
recollection of the past , it was I you treated like vilescum

2) You may share a house and be with John without being in Dustari

3) As far as Sagesun name , no worries on getting it because the main
qualities we look for in people are mainly honor, loyalty.

4) As far as Zoe , you hate her or any part of my family , you hate me.
No picking or choosing , I want to rule and be as good as Zoe and Padren

Thank you for your continued interest in our Kingdom,

Sincerely Queen Anastasia Talisan Sagesun
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