Local Guilds

Pelikano · #1 05-25-2009, 08:57 PM

Well, this thread http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=85709 made me think a little. I spoke to some oldies of Classic and made them tell me a little about how the guilds were.
I heard the word "important" a lot. Well, right now guilds are everything else than important.

That thread gave me a lot of good ideas and I liked it a lot, so I asked DC for the permission to start this project, choosing my own Developer(s) to help me.

Here's the current Team:

NAT: Pelikano (Sam)
LAT: Shannon (Jade)

I've chosen Jade, because in the past I've seen that she completes what she starts, which is not what every Staff on classic is like. Making her kind of unique, :].

Okay, so why the hell am I posting this here? Well, before just disabling the Global Guilds and Enabling Local ones, making a horde of angry Graalians finding out about my destination and rushing my House with Ak47s and RPGs, I decided to first post this on the forums and ask for some Feedback. Please tell me why you'd like to see this project running or why not, of course.

Here's my current plan:

- Create GUI etc to manage Guilds

Creating a GUI-Based System to manage a Guild, give rights to this Person, add that person, remove those people etc...

- Put up a Poll for Guild-Leaders, choose 3

Next we'd have to choose 3 Guild Leaders for the 3 Guilds that'll exist, if you guys like this idea, we'd put up a poll with all the people that'd like to have a guild...

EDIT: Of course a guild that'd be put up CAN'T be a current Global Guild, unless the Leader of the Global Guild wants to set it up on Classic.

- Disable Global Guilds

In order to make local guilds useful we'd have to obviously disable the Global Guilds first.

- Create Guild Events (Weekly)

Next we'd create some sort of Guild Events, Guild Wars etc. which would be hosted every week...

- Guild Rankings: Kills/Deaths

And we'd put up a Highscore of the Guild's deaths and kills...

- Guild Bases

Last we'd create a Base for every of the 3 Guilds, make them "raidable" and add some kind of point-system, we'll have to think about this...

Any ideas and feedback are welcome.

Unkownsoldier · #2 05-25-2009, 09:03 PM

So you are saying you will get rid of most of the player-count by getting rid of the only reason they want to be there. They want global guilds because they have been in them for years.

xnervNATx · #3 05-25-2009, 09:07 PM

people that say guild need to be worked on are out of their mind.

DutchGuy · #4 05-25-2009, 09:20 PM

pelikano, please resign while you still can.

jacob_bald6225 · #5 05-25-2009, 09:22 PM

Seriously having only 3 guilds will kill the fun.

:-{( I would like to help come up with a good guild system if I could.

Terazel Tenjin · #6 05-25-2009, 09:23 PM

The reasoning behind this is sound, and similar to what was attempting before when it was the Master Storm/Massokre team running things (and ultimately shot it down upon the basis that it would change the meaning of Classic, but in reality because it wasn't their vision and was quite a bit of work).

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=67224

I'm sure Tyhm wouldn't mind elaborating on what were the next steps of the original idea, but essentially that was the first and easiest phase of a 3 or 4 phase project (in direct coordination/cooperation between key players/leaders and development team). Summarizing that, it's essentially revamping guilds into something more and giving them a reason to fight/defend by providing Territories. Similar idea to Guild Forts, but expanding it to the sense of region.

Really wouldn't mess with Global guilds, though. They're there and kept for a reason.

BlackSolider · #7 05-25-2009, 09:37 PM

IMO not a good idea for a few reasons:

A) I like knowing when my guildmates are online on other servers (obviously they have to be on tag) because otherwise I'd assume they weren't on.

B) Changing global guilds to local guilds doesn't instantly improve guild activity. The other aspects of the plan (guild bases + events) can probably still work with globals.

C) Having only local guilds (using era as my example) is really annoying for visitors because you really feel excluded. Plus, forcing people to join a guild they might not care about rather than represent one they care about is not very cool. I'm sure some people wouldn't mind joining up a local guild (assuming we have 3 main ones,) but other 'hard-core' guilders might not want to put down their favorite guild tag so easy.

Mark Sir Link · #8 05-25-2009, 09:39 PM

real classic players only play classic so disabling global guilds shouldn't matter

Nelm · #9 05-25-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

real classic players only play classic so disabling global guilds shouldn't matter

Amen.

But what I am concerned with is only 3 guilds? NO WHERE was that even mentioned by me or anyone else in that thread...so where is that coming from? That idea is pure stupid on top of more stupid.

jacob_bald6225 · #10 05-25-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelm

Amen.

But what I am concerned with is only 3 guilds? NO WHERE was that even mentioned by me or anyone else in that thread...so where is that coming from? That idea is pure stupid on top of more stupid.

It might've been suggested before-- you weren't the pioneer on local guilds.

Nelm · #11 05-25-2009, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225

It might've been suggested before-- you weren't the pioneer on local guilds.

Yes, this is exactly what I said. "I am the pioneer on local guilds."

DarkCloud_PK · #12 05-25-2009, 10:49 PM

I think the reasoning behind this is that global guilds as they stand now have the most piss poor support imaginable.

The Guild CP is horrible.
The Guild Listing is horrible.
Some servers disable global guilds already.
There's not really a guild admin anymore, just Tig.
There's no enforcement to have serious guilds or ways to discourage multiguilding.