Offline/Multiplayer support

DustyPorViva · #1 11-17-2007, 10:43 PM

I know this is odd, and probably most people will object to this idea.
The only reason I bring this up is because it's already been done(so I figure it won't take that much effort), and because according to Stefan, he's only recently actually removed the code from the client.
There's probably no direct financial benefit for doing this, but I figure if you enable this again, it'll do a lot more for getting people interested in Graal. That is what first got me interested in Graal, and then I went and started playing online.
I personally like to create offline servers/games. You know, some that you can actually build a story and progress in... but then you can't save. 4-player was pretty fun too, and got me and another friend interested in Graal.
Anyways, I know it was removed to lessen the load on the main client and such... but I figure maybe you could release a special client with no online support and all the old past offline support?

Well... it's an odd request, but I would really love to see Graal do something like this. It might get people more interested because they could basically create their own games. To be honest, I find Graal a hell of a lot more flexible and powerful than engines made just for gamemaking. So... please! The code is apparently there, and I don't think it'd take that much work to just enable it in a client and disable the online bit.

In a basic sense, enable the editor(not the client) with some basic offline stuff like saving, multi-player, maybe some options like editing what the starting level is and such. I don't think you released how appealing this was to players when it was around.

Pimmeh · #2 11-18-2007, 12:21 AM

I started with that, as well
Hours with my brother copying baddy spawn scripts from some 1.36 level pack I downloaded.
hack hack hack, farm rupees.
And then I found out about the p2p part and I was like, cool!

Inverness · #3 11-18-2007, 12:24 AM

I don't think its safe to mention downloading such things.

DustyPorViva · #4 11-18-2007, 12:29 AM

I think he means the level pack you used to download with the old Graal.
Either way I seriously think this will peak peoples interest in games. One, offline world making isn't as demanding as making a server is, as well as it's a lot easier to actually make a game with a story and dungeons and such. Then, people could make their own 'games' and pass them on to friends, get their friends interested in Graal and so on. Either way, I think something like this would make a lot of people happy.

Switch · #5 11-18-2007, 05:36 AM

Could also make the option to save as a reg file, then there could be an option "Make an Online Server wth this content" and that button brings you to the subscription screen, that way people don't buy a server and not know how to do stuff.

Pimmeh · #6 11-25-2007, 02:31 PM

Stefan? Could we PLEASE get your opinion on this?

DustyPorViva · #7 11-25-2007, 02:50 PM

Yes, I'd love to hear his opinion on it.
I'm not asking for ongoing support of it... rather just enable it in the current version of the editor(though I guess it'd be nice for it to be geared a little for actual gameplay, IE a startup screen like the old one).

Darklux · #8 11-25-2007, 03:02 PM

Well the problem about this is, that it could pull people out of playerworlds.

My idea would be that graalonline envolves to a hosting plattform for offline and online content, and that people can upload their offline playerworlds and people with a classic subscription can download them itunes alike...

This way everyone profits, so that its more realistic for it to come out.

DustyPorViva · #9 11-25-2007, 03:13 PM

Offline will never replace online gameplay... they are two different things. Offline, 'servers' will actually have a purpose and goal to them, story and all that. Online, things are more dynamic, constantly changing, people to interact with.

I was going to suggest a way for people to upload their offline servers, but that wouldn't make much sense since they can just upload it onto some free uploading service. Either way, Graal doesn't have to directly make money from this, to make money. It's more like viral-marketing.

kia345 · #10 11-25-2007, 05:57 PM

I'd love to see things like Aylad's offline server brought back and finished

Twinny · #11 12-01-2007, 10:59 AM

Wasn't one of the big accomplishments for v5 the fact that it reduced file size dramatically by removing the offline part?

DustyPorViva · #12 12-01-2007, 11:19 AM

Exactly my point. It doesn't need to be part of v5 or anything... just release the editor or something with the old support it used to have. No need to add it to the current client.

Pimmeh · #13 12-21-2007, 07:03 PM

BUMP
Stefan, could you please give your opinion on this?

Deas_Voice · #14 01-07-2008, 04:26 AM

Bump

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimmeh

BUMP
Stefan, could you please give your opinion on this?

comon give us one!

Horrified · #15 01-19-2008, 07:08 PM

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmppp

stefan needs to give opinion