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Old 05-19-2007, 12:25 AM
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Cool Rimworld Alliance

Some background: A while back I had the idea there should be a central server, so that all servers could be neighbors instead of competitors...and maybe we'd focus on making our individual servers better objectively rather than subjectively better than the "competition". Bad idea ultimately, everyone resents there being a server that comes along and is suddenly more important than theirs.

Thus: I propose an alliance of playerworlds, united in a rim with no center. Each PW shares information (via that PHP Send whatsit Stefan was talking about), each PW contributes to the overall gaming experience.

An example: say we have 5 playerworlds. All 5 owners are sure their PW has what it takes and should be launching any day now (but of course, we outside all see it'll fail miserably, just like all the others). They band together, each focusing on a different specialty (though likely still working on other aspects as well): a server with a really good job system, a server with a really cool pvp battle system, a server with a tonne of weapons to buy, a server with a bunch of quests, and a server with a bunch of housing related stuff. Players can work at the Job server, carry their money to the Weapons server, take the weapons to the Quest server, take their hearts/XP to the PVP server, then go hang out in the SimHouse server.
Eventually each server could grow its own version of its neighbors and spin off, I suppose, but what's the rush?

And the selfish angle: Really, I'd like to make parts of a server without having either to design the whole independent thing, nor leave it in the hands of the server's owner until it changes hands and gets "reinvented".
Ferinstance, I kinda wanna make a Mr. Driller server. But that wouldn't make a good Server, only a good job. I kinda wanna make a Waiter job too, like all these Bartender Tycoon games my friend's always playing, but I don't feel like scripting GS2 Movement. I got notes for a whole sidescroller server, but I don't feel like making it solo, nor trusting other people to make my server...but I wouldn't mind making a shop on my server that their players can use...

Good, Bad, Dumb, Flawed, Needs work? I know intraserver security will be an issue, have to keep backups of the common currency in case 1 server goofs up/is compromised...
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Old 05-19-2007, 12:31 AM
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Old 05-19-2007, 12:35 AM
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Basically if everyone who was working on a NEW SECRET PROJECT OMG MY IDEA IS SO GOOD playerworld right now came together to create something like this, we'd actually have a new good "server".

But obviously, everyones idea is so much better and is going to be so much more popular than this when it's released in never, so I don't see this happening.
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This is actually quite possible, if you have good scripters that know how to communicate between servers. The next problem would be finding 5 servers
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Old 05-19-2007, 01:09 AM
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This is actually quite possible, if you have good scripters that know how to communicate between servers. The next problem would be finding 5 servers
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Old 05-19-2007, 01:18 AM
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Appealing to egos would be tricky; but if the PWA granted a Group Review...it'd be "My Awesome Doublesecret Server's the only reason these lamer servers passed inspection, I'm only keeping them around until my Million Times Better job system's done. Then I might let them share my quests, just to be nice."

Then the question would be: How do you resolve the "He stole my quest/system/etc.!" debates? If Joe Doublesecret is confident nobody will be able to steal his Doublesecret technology, he'll be more willing to share it (on his own server)...
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Appealing to egos would be tricky; but if the PWA granted a Group Review...it'd be "My Awesome Doublesecret Server's the only reason these lamer servers passed inspection, I'm only keeping them around until my Million Times Better job system's done. Then I might let them share my quests, just to be nice."

Then the question would be: How do you resolve the "He stole my quest/system/etc.!" debates? If Joe Doublesecret is confident nobody will be able to steal his Doublesecret technology, he'll be more willing to share it (on his own server)...
Erm, you should be editting that into the topic-post :P
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Old 05-19-2007, 04:42 AM
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Another question is, is the effort to bring together this project even worth it?

I mean, it would require real planning and organization, deadlines, hard work, and professional communication between people.

All that work just for 100-200 players, assuming the project is finished. I dunno, the idea is very solid and all, honestly. Just don't think at this point in Graal's history any kind of large impressive project is even worth considering.
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Not to sound egotistic, but I have had the idea and have started planning (With deadlines and all) a perfect (If it is possible) all-around appealing graal server.

I would be interested in this and would invest my hard-earned money.
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Erm, you should be editting that into the topic-post :P
*shrugs* If you think so, I'll see what I can do. I usually leave developments like that to be discussed later in the thread, but since so few people read past the first post, it's valid.

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Just don't think at this point in Graal's history any kind of large impressive project is even worth considering.
I'll grant that I've taken for granted the assumption that Things are worth trying on Graal. It might not be valid, it might be rearranging deck chairs on the titanic, but if we all accept that there's no sense in trying to do anything on Graal then there's no sense in being here.

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Not to sound egotistic, but I have had the idea and have started planning (With deadlines and all) a perfect (If it is possible) all-around appealing graal server.

I would be interested in this and would invest my hard-earned money.
? Okay, so you're making PerfectServeria and don't need any of our help. But you would be interested in this (Rimworld?) and would invest your money (in server-hosting?)
Regardless, you cut an iconic figure: you would, as a server owner confident in his server's individual might, be interested in linking with neighboring worlds. For their benefit rather than yours, I take it? In particular, how do you see your own server/players benefitting, or is it mere altruism/charity that drives you?
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Old 05-20-2007, 05:22 AM
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the chances of them doing this would be a doubtful one, prety much like they said egos and who would own it, thered be a huge arguement there, theyd like fight about that and bam. miserable failure which would have come in the beginning anyways. Its a nice thought though
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