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Anyhow, I dont think we really need graphic submissions from players, because we have staff for that (zero hour and I, and others).
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(Sorry for the cross-thread quote but i can only post once a day and a majoity of my post belongs here... :x)
So yeah, Liquid, we DO need player submitted graphics. Why? Because the players know what the players want, and the current staff don't change jack-squat. Even though You and ZH are part of the graphics team, besides the immortal frost shield,(which I beleive ZH only changed because he had one and didn't like the GFX it had..) what else have you guys done? Nothing. And your saying donald is trying to change the whole server, well i do beleive he has stated that he is doing this in order to fine-tune his GFXing skills, but hell, at least he DOES SOMETHING. And, yes, his GFX do PWN 90% of the graphics I've ever seen on graal kingdoms, yours included, HE should be the GAT on GK, not you..
So on to the actual topic... I had made this shield a while back and oddly enough I had called it a crusader shield as well (beleive me or not its true o.o).
But in my honest opinion of your shield....yours lookes very flat, like a piece of steel with a cross painted on it...your second attempt is a bit better but still no more suited for GK then the other, maloria perhaps? ZH's is better but still doesnt really look round, most of the shading is really good though

, perhaps get off the phone and it would look 1337, ZH?
Edit: could this shield maybe get rated.. i made it for for fun :P
