medium relics

[Mousefuzz]

Are medium relics such as ogmas bracers working? I with help of items got up to 163 base grace and prayed for 3 hrs and nothing.
waterlord did the same. I changed gods , lost 3 levels , to try to get bracers , me be fumed if it dont work .

[DragonX]

Ogma's Bracers cannot be received yet. Stefan has to fix it, but before he does, I hope he nerfs it a bit because it's a medium relic. If it were a high relic, I wouldn't mind the stats. Or maybe if you can't EA it at all that'd be good too.

[skyler87]

It really pisses me off that these bracers are listed in Ogma's relics, yet you can't obtain them. A big part of the reason that I switched from gov to ogma is so I could get them.

[Ziro_Vitrudestec]

Originally posted by skyler87
It really pisses me off that these bracers are listed in Ogma's relics, yet you can't obtain them. A big part of the reason that I switched from gov to ogma is so I could get them.

Do us all a favor: Complain more. People like me don't complain. As a 14 wisdom level Ogma worshipper, it's not that big of a deal to us...
Take initiative, lead the war, etc...
Bring change. Be heard.

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec


Do us all a favor: Complain more. People like me don't complain. As a 14 wisdom level Ogma worshipper, it's not that big of a deal to us...
Take initiative, lead the war, etc...
Bring change. Be heard.

Tried it before, it doesn't work. Either the staff don't agree, or are too busy, or some other stuff along these lines, or the masses of other people with the same problem never bother to join in. You might share an opinion with the whole other playercount, but if you're the only one voicing that opinion it isn't too powerful

Edit: Plus you get flamed and flamed and flamed for complaining, which i don't mind personally but ehh

[Satrek2000]

While we're at it - refine the whole system to make high level actually reachable for more than 0.01% of the players - make the steps 50, 125 and 200, and maybe tone the items down where required...

[--Chris--]

The stats should not be nerfed.
Not only do some of bracers stats not work due to wearing armor but this is a relic, relics are meant to be good. There are other really advantageous relics and spells granted by other Gods so don't give me that crap DX. Ogma is basically crap without that relic, that relic is the only reason I pray to him and still isn't worth it to some people (I'm actually considering switching even if it existed -_-) Are you also aware there are bracers with dex+2 on the server? I'm also sure the regen+1 is really helpful as most people wear RoSs + RoWs that pray to Ogma *sarcasm*

Edit: If I recall correctly you yourself wanted those bracers but managed to get 30 str without it and switched Gods but now you decide to make a complaint? How selfish. I also believe low, medium, high should be 50, 100, 200 respectively.

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by --Chris--
The stats should not be nerfed.
Not only do some of bracers stats not work due to wearing armor but this is a relic, relics are meant to be good.

Yeah, i agree. Pity most of the relics just get drowned by the alch/event items =/

Originally posted by --Chris--

Edit: ...... I also believe low, medium, high should be 50, 100, 200 respectively.

Humm, i reckon that it should either be how satrek suggested (50, 125, and 200) but if it were to be 50 then 100, i think the high one should be 150 (to make a pretty pattern ) or 175 (probably 175, because the high relics really are that much better) :O

[DragonX]

Originally posted by --Chris--

Edit: If I recall correctly you yourself wanted those bracers but managed to get 30 str without it and switched Gods but now you decide to make a complaint? How selfish. I also believe low, medium, high should be 50, 100, 200 respectively.

You are calling ME selfish when YOU bug me for a year for my Blood Ring then you say Stefan is going to release more (just so you can have dual)? Please Chris, if anyone is selfish, it's you. Just because I wouldn't give you my Blood Ring you were going to complain to Stefan to make more just so you can have dual. Now that is selfish. Also when you finally do get my BR, you decide to become inactive and plan on quitting. Why?

Also the stats ARE too high. It is medium for crying out loud. I mean, the stats should stay if it can't be EA'd at all but if it can be made +10, then the stats should be nerfed big time, or atleast change it to high and not medium.

Edit: Also here are the stats of it
Bracers of Ogma (medium, rare)
Strength +2
armour+ 30
resist cold +20
Damage +15
Regeneration +1

Now, lets look. If this item were +10, that would be +25 damage (5 IWD alone). The strength +2 alone can put most people at 30 strength which gives a lot more damage and speed (because of increased weight limit). The armour would also be around 50+ if it were +10 and all that for a medium relic is WAY too much.

[--Chris--]

"You are calling ME selfish when YOU bug me for a year for my Blood Ring"

Er...you bugged me to use mine than I bugged you to use yours. Sure I offered trades once every few friggin months.

"you say Stefan is going to release more (just so you can have dual)?"

No, I said I was going to suggest putting it in this upcoming "item shop" where e-coins would be used and not "just so I can have dual" but because I think it's only fair considering I now own dual and they aren't much of a great ring compared to RoWs or RoEs in many ways and shouldn't be limited to the public

"Please Chris, if anyone is selfish, it's you."

Back that up, dude the amount of (and quality of the) things I've given to friends and even people I don't know for Christmas (hell, whenever I'm on) all the players on GK combined can't. Especially when I don't accept anything in return.

"Also when you finally do get my BR, you decide to become inactive and plan on quitting. Why?"

What the hell? I'm on every day, just today I did some map hunting and pked a guy I saw hacking Plan on quitting, err...no. I was one time _considering_ it though and it was before I got dual BRs (not like that is even relevant.)

"Also the stats ARE too high. It is medium for crying out loud. I mean, the stats should stay if it can't be EA'd at all but if it can be made +10, then the stats should be nerfed big time, or atleast change it to high and not medium."

No they're not. High is insane man! People can barely get half of high, there is no bloody reason to pray to Ogma over any other God. At medium the only people that can get it are waterlord and some other dude as it is who switched Gods.

"Strength +2"
Everyone I know has gotten 30 str without it so far

"armour+ 30 "

Useless, you don't get a full 30, I currently have armor+92 or so and when I unequip my gloves of sorig with 30+ armor I barely lose 2 armor. There are people with 97, that won't even change a thing.

"resist cold +20 "

Not bad although useless unless they have something else like a blue dragon amulet.

"Damage +15 "

Nice

"Regeneration +1 "
Completely useless. Refer to previous post.

Do you know the stats of other freakin relics!? Do you know the benefits other Gods give? Do you know there are currently bracers with dex+2?

[Nappa]

These bracers aren't released yet ? When will they, I pray to ogma and haven't gotten anything good from him, selfish bastard.

[DragonX]

Originally posted by --Chris--
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Well you say the strength, armour, regeneration +1 and resist cold isn't all that great. So if all that gets removed, it should be fine, right? So the bracers should only do damage +15 and everyone will be happy 8-)

Also I do know there are Dex +2 bracers out there. What does that have to do with Ogma Bracers? Dex +2 comes nowhere near in comparison to Str +2, Dam +15, resist cold +20, armour +30 and regeneration +1.

[zell12]

Umm these relics were thought out by many people when the information base was created -- created by people smarter than you and I in this area. So don't start saying "they are too strong"
or "blah blah blah" about that... Leave them the way they are.

Oh, you Ogma people, just prepare a sword to a bunch of wisdom potions and add wisdom scrolls to it and get a higher base. Then you get his High relic.

[graaliholic]

I'd take Aengus' bow over those bracers any day. 30 damage, 3 luck, 8kg... prepare that, and its a mass damage causing weapon... double that of every other bow. Oh, it's also naturally +5. That's an extra 5 damage... plus extra WC... Tons better than those bracers :P. Who needs extra resistances when nothing can get close enough to touch you?

[Nappa]

The bracers don't even compare to most of the items I've seen. I still want them though, I pray to ogma and he hasn't given me crap. You shouldn't lower the stats on it, it was made that way to even everything out, and its still not even super strong.