Just some changes...

Nemesis · #1 11-09-2002, 10:12 PM

Well I am putting this up for a little bit...Frankly it's about how people are jailed and such....

I go to playerworlds...often enough a player...just like you would say "I was wrongfully jailed" Eg. Spar Pking or something foolish like that...and well most of the time there isn't any documentation. Eg. A Pm warning or anything, it was all on screen...

Then all it does is become a "Your word vs. My word" scene. It's very bad and I'm asking for staff and players a like to simply take charge and go in the order of the charter...

What this means is simply this....

If a GP illegally jails you, and didn't give you any warnings with proof of a warning and such . All jailings must have a warning....Hacking/Stealing accounts, is auto ban and never to be released...

Then you or that person would simply go to the GP Captain/Chief/Admin and report the injustice...If the Captain/Chief/Admin does not listen, and you have proof of it...you take it to the admin/manager/asst manager...If they do not help you and say "tough" for example...You keep all your conversations with them...Then you find me....Forum pm or something and when I ask for the documentation, you should provide me with the original claim...How you weren't warned...How you went to the GP admin/captain, how you went to the manager/asst Manager etc

BUT if they are right in jailing you and I agree then obviously your claim is voided, so you better make clear that you are right and have all the evidence FOR your case....

Simply everyone is dealing with the little things, and the bigger picture is whats done...you can find me on classic and such...Post feelings but negativity eg...this blows etc...will not be tolerated...I'm open to suggestions on how things should be conducted...I'm processing a order of operations (sounds like math huh?) where you have to go to specific people even if you hate them prior to going above. I do not want to solve server problems and have them say "Oh if they told me about it, then I'd of fixed it no problem!"

Etc...So the moral of the story is to warn via pm and keep the conversation handy logged and sealed for myself, or a member of the pw team that I choose who can view these for investigation purposes.....

I'll complie a list of things and post them or find a way to have them up for you to see since this is my section to take care of...

-Another options is tentive plans to add Graal Radio to the Classic Worlds...Meaning I'll try to get this pushed, so instead of using Midi's and such we can use real live internet streamed music...with no profanity and all that for your listening pleasure...if you hate this idea...tell me why and such...Lag is a key factor but everyone will lag here and there...but the majority finds it to be well...also if you would like...to list types of genres for me to add into the project I will...There isn't any hirings yet for it...so please don't ask...if you want to help with no rewards..Eg..Getting a job...then contact me via forum pm, on classic, or if you see me on aim...thanks

Darlene159 · #2 11-09-2002, 11:20 PM

warn via pm?
When most people warn via pm instead of warning via admin message, the person just says "I didnt read the pm"
With an admin message, they have no choice.
Staff on Npulse have been told to warn via admin message, and we have a violations txt that they add it to since comments dont stick, plus they have a violations history folder where they put either screenshots or txt history if they have it.

XxxxneosoftxxxX · #3 11-10-2002, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
warn via pm?
When most people warn via pm instead of warning via admin message, the person just says "I didnt read the pm"
With an admin message, they have no choice.
Staff on Npulse have been told to warn via admin message, and we have a violations txt that they add it to since comments dont stick, plus they have a violations history folder where they put either screenshots or txt history if they have it.

But sometimes admin messages won't work.. Like you send it and that person could be trying to talk and hit enter. Thus the admin message will go away without them seeing it.. Its happened to me before. And something should be done about the comments on RC. When you set them they are there until you set that account's attributes. Once you set the attributes they go away. I think they should stay just like ban info does.

AlexH · #4 11-10-2002, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
warn via pm?
When most people warn via pm instead of warning via admin message, the person just says "I didnt read the pm"
With an admin message, they have no choice.
Staff on Npulse have been told to warn via admin message, and we have a violations txt that they add it to since comments dont stick, plus they have a violations history folder where they put either screenshots or txt history if they have it.

Doesn't matter.
if they recieve a PM with a red bubble you assume it is important.
If they choose to ignore it that's their fault.
You have given them the waring.

Torankusu · #5 11-10-2002, 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by AlexH

Doesn't matter.
if they recieve a PM with a red bubble you assume it is important.
If they choose to ignore it that's their fault.
You have given them the waring.

AlexH is right. If they don't read it, that's too bad. They received it, and that's all that matters in warning situations.

zell12 · #6 11-10-2002, 12:33 AM

Although you should give them 2 minutes to be able to read and write a reply.

XxxxneosoftxxxX · #7 11-10-2002, 12:48 AM

I don't believe warnings should be given period. I mean, MOST people know that spar PKing is illegal, why let them do it once? Same with swearing and such....

Spark910 · #8 11-10-2002, 02:28 AM

Some should be warnings some should be straight to jail. If you spark PK, Warn. If you put 10000000 rupees on a level straight ban, straight jail. After all your spoiling it for players, as they dont have to work anymore, so they get bored as they have everything.

Dark_Zeratul101 · #9 11-10-2002, 03:27 AM

I been banned from classic server because a hacker did that hacked level 3 drop trick..... cant believe I fell for it

Mykel · #10 11-10-2002, 03:52 AM

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Originally posted by XxxxneosoftxxxX
I don't believe warnings should be given period. I mean, MOST people know that spar PKing is illegal, why let them do it once? Same with swearing and such....

yes and no. It may be a ****ish person, who may NOT know....this way to result in confusion, its easier to give them a warning...., but if they do it again, you can give them a stronger punishment than for just doing it once and not giving a warning...

Okilian · #11 11-10-2002, 05:01 AM

i agree with warnings, just write it down in comments, they were warned once, then you just jail them. Now another problem that i think nemesis hit on is the fact of word vs. word. It happens so often that I stopped taking the fact of one person saying, so and so spar pked me unless they can prove it. Or i also will take it if it's like 3 people who saw the event. Sometimes people just say it to jail. warning thing is nice, got to pass it on

VampiricTutorNewHD · #12 11-11-2002, 09:04 PM

I'll have to be honest, I'm only posting here because I saw Okilian's name in the thread.

That having been said, spar pking is not a stupid reason for jailing. If you want stupid reasons for jailing go to Valikorlia.

Also, the "word vs word" thing is not as bad as you make it sound. Most often there are more than just two people in the spar room, even if not participating directly. Those people's word vs one person's word is just about all you have to go by.
I mean, getting proof of someone running from sparring is like getting proof that man didn't land on the moon.

syltburk · #13 11-11-2002, 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
warn via pm?
When most people warn via pm instead of warning via admin message, the person just says "I didnt read the pm"
With an admin message, they have no choice.
Staff on Npulse have been told to warn via admin message, and we have a violations txt that they add it to since comments dont stick, plus they have a violations history folder where they put either screenshots or txt history if they have it.

so what ur sayin is that everybody has Admin Message Rights on Npulse?

Vampiric is right about Valkoria.
They say they are aloud to pk and we are not.
One time when i whas online there a staff told me to stop pk him.
I did and then he start pk me, i go and heal goes back and he do the same again and again and again.
After i got killed some times he get bored and jail me.

What is Valkoria Staffs Problem=?

VampiricTutorNewHD · #14 11-12-2002, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by syltburk

What is Valkoria Staffs Problem=?

Answer:They work on Valikorlia.

osrs · #15 11-12-2002, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by AlexH

Doesn't matter.
if they recieve a PM with a red bubble you assume it is important.
If they choose to ignore it that's their fault.
You have given them the waring.

Just send a admin message to player..
if you cant send admin message,try to warp to him/her and give the warning.