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Old 06-20-2002, 11:44 AM
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Heres the problem...

Ok here are the reasons (Not theorys) that graals getting boring quick.

Back in the day we had 1 server, Now we have about 10-15

People are spread out amongst these bad servers or decent servers, thus creating the good servers with less people..
When "classic" was graal I remember hitting m and seeing Users: 346 or somthing like that now almost all servers max at 50.
The only reason "classic" was so popular was due to the fact that so many people were on it and everyone was talented/had great ideas. Also stefan cannot concentrate on 1 server at a time ono, hes constantly back and forth using 2k1 as a test server for 2k2 (Thus the new bodies) Yes if you dont notice stefan likes to use his old servers for testing (Thus the trees along with other npcs on "classic")

This can easily be correct by doing the following-

1)Get rid of 90% playerworlds most of them are shyt anyway and its just rc's online if not 1 or 2 people, Even if the pw is good it doesnt matter 1 or 2 people isnt enough to keep it running. Make a cut off date, Example; if your server doesnt have x average amount of players daily for a week its deleted.

2)Merge 2k1 and 2k2 creating 1 server with 2 different worlds, Thus making more users on 1 server causing better things.

3) UPDATES! UPDATES! UPDATES!

I know this will not even be considered by stefan because he has his own views but I know this is the problem. Graal has the users theyre just too spread out to make somthing of it.
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Old 06-20-2002, 11:47 AM
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Re: Heres the problem...

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Originally posted by -SLaG-
Ok here are the reasons (Not theorys) that graals getting boring quick.

Back in the day we had 1 server, Now we have about 10-15

People are spread out amongst these bad servers or decent servers, thus creating the good servers with less people..
When "classic" was graal I remember hitting m and seeing Users: 346 or somthing like that now almost all servers max at 50.
The only reason "classic" was so popular was due to the fact that so many people were on it and everyone was talented/had great ideas. Also stefan cannot concentrate on 1 server at a time ono, hes constantly back and forth using 2k1 as a test server for 2k2 (Thus the new bodies) Yes if you dont notice stefan likes to use his old servers for testing (Thus the trees along with other npcs on "classic")

This can easily be correct by doing the following-

1)Get rid of 90% playerworlds most of them are shyt anyway and its just rc's online if not 1 or 2 people, Even if the pw is good it doesnt matter 1 or 2 people isnt enough to keep it running. Make a cut off date, Example; if your server doesnt have x average amount of players daily for a week its deleted.

2)Merge 2k1 and 2k2 creating 1 server with 2 different worlds, Thus making more users on 1 server causing better things.

3) UPDATES! UPDATES! UPDATES!

I know this will not even be considered by stefan because he has his own views but I know this is the problem. Graal has the users theyre just too spread out to make somthing of it.
1.) Let's not get rid of 90%. Let's get rid of about 4-6.
2.)Er, 2k1's server type is different than 2k2's. Not possible.
3.) HAPPENING! HAPPENING! HAPPENING!
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Old 06-20-2002, 11:47 AM
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Nice idea. Kinda... but stefan would never admit he was wrong with the p2p thing and fix everything and etc. so i doubt any of that would happen.
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Old 06-20-2002, 11:49 AM
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Re: Re: Heres the problem...

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1.) Let's not get rid of 90%. Let's get rid of about 4-6.
2.)Er, 2k1's server type is different than 2k2's. Not possible.
3.) HAPPENING! HAPPENING! HAPPENING!
1) Yes we really should unless you enjoy graal being dull with 15 users on a server

2) Im sure it could be done

3) Where? Still waiting all Ive seen are words from admins and cancelled projects.
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Old 06-20-2002, 01:52 PM
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1) Yes we really should unless you enjoy graal being dull with 15 users on a server

2) Im sure it could be done

3) Where? Still waiting all Ive seen are words from admins and cancelled projects.
1.) Make a great playerworld so players migrate to it.

2.)Test1 and Test2 type servers are completely different, and don't exactly mix...

3.) There are quite a few towns that I've never seen before added to 2001 in the past few days/week or so. They just need insides and things for them.
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Old 06-20-2002, 01:54 PM
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1 lets stop useing numbers and make it all one big happy no number paragraph, numbers confuse and annoy me
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Old 06-20-2002, 01:56 PM
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I'm not complaining about p2p but it's a reason a lot of my friends left graal.
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Old 06-20-2002, 05:26 PM
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I'm not complaining about p2p but it's a reason a lot of my friends left graal.
Server's aren't free. Most people only seem to care about their own money and not the money cyberjourers would be losing if they let all the old servers stay free.

I agree that there is no need for all these crappy playerworlds to be online. There needs to be a few high quality pw's instead of 10-15 crappy ones.
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Old 06-20-2002, 05:55 PM
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Servers that are up with few people on them, who cares, let them have fun

Murdging the two servers is a big fat nono, pretty much because the system npcs and serverside npcs would be too jumbled together, and basicly not able to work, there could be a portal betwen the two servers, but it doesn't fit in with 2k2's story.

Updates happen when updates happen, the reson there was soo many people on clasic so long ago, was because there were so many people on clasic basicly, the more the more .ect graal depends hevely on player to player actions.
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Old 06-20-2002, 06:00 PM
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Just think of it as this, If Cyberjoueurs didn't get paid for the service their offering (An Online RPG) they wouldn't be able to keep it going, nothing is free..

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Old 06-20-2002, 06:23 PM
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Re: Heres the problem...

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Originally posted by -SLaG-
Ok here are the reasons (Not theorys) that graals getting boring quick.

Back in the day we had 1 server, Now we have about 10-15

People are spread out amongst these bad servers or decent servers, thus creating the good servers with less people..
When "classic" was graal I remember hitting m and seeing Users: 346 or somthing like that now almost all servers max at 50.
The only reason "classic" was so popular was due to the fact that so many people were on it and everyone was talented/had great ideas. Also stefan cannot concentrate on 1 server at a time ono, hes constantly back and forth using 2k1 as a test server for 2k2 (Thus the new bodies) Yes if you dont notice stefan likes to use his old servers for testing (Thus the trees along with other npcs on "classic")

This can easily be correct by doing the following-

1)Get rid of 90% playerworlds most of them are shyt anyway and its just rc's online if not 1 or 2 people, Even if the pw is good it doesnt matter 1 or 2 people isnt enough to keep it running. Make a cut off date, Example; if your server doesnt have x average amount of players daily for a week its deleted.

2)Merge 2k1 and 2k2 creating 1 server with 2 different worlds, Thus making more users on 1 server causing better things.

3) UPDATES! UPDATES! UPDATES!

I know this will not even be considered by stefan because he has his own views but I know this is the problem. Graal has the users theyre just too spread out to make somthing of it.
Every playerworld would fail if there was a cut off date. Jesus, man, it's not like there are 1000 players on every server total at peak hours like there used to be. You can't expect every server to be ultra popular and get the playercount that classic has.

OH MY GOD NO. ARE YOU INSANE? ARE YOU UTTERLY INSANE? Merging 2k1 and 2k2 would be a DISASTER. A total disaster...this coming from the MANAGER.

...Wow.
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Old 06-20-2002, 06:33 PM
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Re: Re: Heres the problem...

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Every playerworld would fail if there was a cut off date. Jesus, man, it's not like there are 1000 players on every server total at peak hours like there used to be. You can't expect every server to be ultra popular and get the playercount that classic has.

OH MY GOD NO. ARE YOU INSANE? ARE YOU UTTERLY INSANE? Merging 2k1 and 2k2 would be a DISASTER. A total disaster...this coming from the MANAGER.

...Wow.
Yeah people are just too thick to realize that.

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Old 06-21-2002, 08:08 AM
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Servers that are up with few people on them, who cares, let them have fun

Murdging the two servers is a big fat nono, pretty much because the system npcs and serverside npcs would be too jumbled together, and basicly not able to work, there could be a portal betwen the two servers, but it doesn't fit in with 2k2's story.

Updates happen when updates happen, the reson there was soo many people on clasic so long ago, was because there were so many people on clasic basicly, the more the more .ect graal depends hevely on player to player actions.
People dont play graal anymore because it became boring.. Stefan started too many projects and neglects the old servers. Only reason classic does good is because it has a few old admins that know what being an "admin" is such as thym.
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Old 06-21-2002, 08:12 AM
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People dont play graal anymore because it became boring.. Stefan started too many projects and neglects the old servers. Only reason classic does good is because it has a few old admins that know what being an "admin" is such as thym.
Too many projects?...

He hasn't started many projects at all.
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Old 06-21-2002, 08:25 AM
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The '2k2 bodies' that are on 2k1 were not tested on 2k1. They had those bodies during the 2k2 preview and decided to get better new bodies so they used the old 2k2 bodies on 2k1.
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