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Old 05-26-2008, 08:11 PM
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Graalonline Business Plan

This has stemmed from the current "state of the <insert aspect of Graal here>" threads which have been cropping up of late.


On Subscriptions:
I don't know any MMORPG that is free, not completely at least.

Change how subscriptions work.
  • Trial accounts should remain as they are.
  • Classic subscriptions should be a fair price for a biannual subscription. This keeps money coming in and would make up for said classic accounts accessing the forums.
  • Classic accounts should be able to access the forums on weekends only, as was with the VIP system accessing gold servers.
  • Classic accounts should be able to play gold servers up to a certain level, before access is limited to a few hours per day or only allowed on weekends. This would increase player counts dramatically.
  • Gold accounts should have the ability to create a server and manage it using a control panel back end at the standard $99 per year. Six month servers, while a good idea, probably not making as much money in the long run. This will stop kids from signing up with their birthday money (well, it will stop the majority).
  • Once a gold subscription as run out, the account should default back to Classic, as it does now.

On Servers:
  • Hosted servers which have little to no players should be re-evaluated, and possibly shut down if the managers are no longer available.
  • Classic servers (Sorry, I'm looking at Atlantis and Delteria) should also be re-evaluated and either moved into Hosted or under construction.
  • Current management of all servers should be re-evaluated and if inappropriateness is found, it should be dealt with.
  • Gold servers with little to no playercount should ALSO apply to the above changes.

On the client:
  • Get rid of the start bar. I know it's easier to implement it due to the fact that WindowBlinds skins can be loaded, but it's not appropriate for the game that Graal is trying to be, which is, above it all, a Zelda like online game.
  • Torque is great, I just don't see much point of having external windows et al if there's no development tools.
  • Standardize development tools. I will release my (open source) flash level editor and my flash gani editor when Flash 10 is properly released (support for loading/saving of local files) if standardization is not apparent.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:20 PM
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How is this a business plan, at all?
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:22 PM
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How is this a business plan, at all?
Try reading it.

The subscription policies are a business plan.

Changing the amount of available worlds will effect players, therefore it will effect business.

Use your head.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:23 PM
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Try reading it.

The subscription policies are a business plan.

Changing the amount of available worlds will effect players, therefore it will effect business.

Use your head.
Obviously I've read it in order to prompt a question, one which was still not answered suggesting you don't actually know what a business plan is. This is basically a collection of rehashed ideas that have been posted.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:27 PM
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Obviously I've read it in order to prompt a question, one which was still not answered suggesting you don't actually know what a business plan is. This is basically a collection of rehashed ideas that have been posted.
I guess it's more like a few business ideas, not that you have to be an ass about things Rufus.

Title gets your attention though more than "Some ideas".

That's generally my titles for posts. It gets ignored.

So what if it's rehashed ideas? Thought of them on the spot, so if they've been said before, does that not mean they are good ideas that ought to be implemented?
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:29 PM
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I don't know any MMORPG that is free, not completely at least.
Micropayments and advertisements work wonders yo
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:35 PM
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I guess it's more like a few business ideas, not that you have to be an ass about things Rufus.
I simply asked a question.

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Title gets your attention though more than "Some ideas".
With that same logic I could name a thread anything I liked as long as it attracted attention, and in gaining that attention it would justify my misleading title?

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So what if it's rehashed ideas? Thought of them on the spot, so if they've been said before, does that not mean they are good ideas that ought to be implemented?
No, not really; but that wasn't insinuated in my post.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:43 PM
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This game is ghetto enough, if you want to charge monthly or biannually I would just recommend dropping this game and going to one with unlimited content. I always loved graal because of the classic graphics , and thatthey did not charge monthly fees.
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I don't like it. This is a stupid thread.
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A good business plan would be to stop wasting time on these novelty things(cards, game server, 3D???, unneeded website overhaul) and spend it on making a new gold server. So much time is spent(I'm assuming) on spitting out small quick-cash systems when it could be better spent on making a slower, but better profiting, server.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:20 PM
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think about this, as you said in the classic part "classic accoutns should have a limited time each day on gold accounts"
they could be in the middle of something extremely important, and get disconnected because their limit for the day was up.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:39 PM
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think about this, as you said in the classic part "classic accoutns should have a limited time each day on gold accounts"
they could be in the middle of something extremely important, and get disconnected because their limit for the day was up.
More incentive for them to pay.

And seriously, there is nothing extremely important on these forums.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:59 PM
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but think of it, their kingdoms at war, theyre the strongest one int he war and theyre JUST about to kill the king, like 2 hp left, and they get disconnected
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but think of it, their kingdoms at war, theyre the strongest one int he war and theyre JUST about to kill the king, like 2 hp left, and they get disconnected
Their own damn fault. Buy a subscription. Observer mode does the same thing.
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:08 PM
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