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Old 05-29-2003, 06:00 PM
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GIF - June 20th

A quick note: on the 20th of June 2003 the GIF patent is expiring, meaning we can legally use it then. PNGs have better compression and allow more things (24bit colors, alpha transparency supported in v3) and MNGs support many interesting features, but surely GIF animations are easier to do.
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Old 05-29-2003, 06:14 PM
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Wonderful, I have always hated this MNG deal. Gives nothing but problems. I like PNGs for the still graphics, but as far as animation goes, I think GIF is superior.
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Old 05-29-2003, 06:17 PM
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Re: GIF - June 20th

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A quick note: on the 20th of June 2003 the GIF patent is expiring, meaning we can legally use it then. PNGs have better compression and allow more things (24bit colors, alpha transparency supported in v3) and MNGs support many interesting features, but surely GIF animations are easier to do.
I dont like the way alot of mng's look, they dont look as good as gif.
I am in the process now of changing all the gif's on my levels to png/mng...already converted all of them...
lol, it has taken me a week to get to the E's

Edit: Wait, are you saying that we can use Gif's??????????
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Old 05-29-2003, 06:25 PM
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Re: Re: GIF - June 20th

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I dont like the way alot of mng's look, they dont look as good as gif.
I am in the process now of changing all the gif's on my levels to png/mng...already converted all of them...
lol, it has taken me a week to get to the E's

Edit: Wait, are you saying that we can use Gif's??????????
Yes, on June 20th, we can legally use GIFs again.
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Old 05-29-2003, 06:26 PM
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Well, DUH....

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on the 20th of June 2003 the GIF patent is expiring, meaning we can legally use it then
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Well, DUH....

Dont be a friggin ass....Stefan posted over a week ago that Graal would no longer support gif files, so here I am changing everything...now he says this...what a crock of crap :grrr:
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PNG/MNG is better anyway. It's a lossless format, so there's no way a GIF could look better...
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PNG/MNG is better anyway. It's a lossless format, so there's no way a GIF could look better...
I have compared the 2, and gif animations look better, and are easier to make
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I have compared the 2, and gif animations look better, and are easier to make
Yeah, but they do loose some colour and quality. Oh well who cares, we can use GIF. And Gifs are useful when people aren't making really big images and I like the way they work.
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Old 05-29-2003, 07:05 PM
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Yeah, but they do loose some colour and quality. Oh well who cares, we can use GIF. And Gifs are useful when people aren't making really big images and I like the way they work.
That isnt my beef anyway...the fact that I have been converting everything over for over a week because he said Graal will no longer support gif's burns me up...I could really care less which format is used, but I do care about wasting my time
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That isnt my beef anyway...the fact that I have been converting everything over for over a week because he said Graal will no longer support gif's burns me up...I could really care less which format is used, but I do care about wasting my time
Well I doubt he knew until very recently. Yes it is annoying as alot of people have probably been converting.
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I have compared the 2, and gif animations look better, and are easier to make
Better in what way? Perhaps it is the fault of your graphics program, and not the format itself.
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Better in what way? Perhaps it is the fault of your graphics program, and not the format itself.
What makes the difference? They just look better to me, ok?
That isnt the issue anyway
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I'm still not going to use GIF for any serious Graal purposes, as last I checked one of the advantages of Graal 3.0 is that it allows png/mng with more than 256 colors.
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Re: GIF - June 20th

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Originally posted by Stefan
A quick note: on the 20th of June 2003 the GIF patent is expiring, meaning we can legally use it then. PNGs have better compression and allow more things (24bit colors, alpha transparency supported in v3) and MNGs support many interesting features, but surely GIF animations are easier to do.

Hahahahahaha....

Who wants to break it to UN that GIFs are going to be legal? They just spent the last month or so converting and deleting GIFs.
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