What you say is true for most hobbies, try to manage a football team, you will see how mush reward you will have, not a lot, most people come to you to complain but never come to say they are happy or give a little "thanks".
When I made the thread to speak about Player World hosting, 90% of the messages were related to price not functionality. Our minimum cost for a Graal server is ~$120 a month if we want to give Npcserver/g-server/Tools, enough memory to make a good server, no limit on the bandwidth, the Human time to make this service (Administration, support, Web tools ...) .
Player World owner doesn't want to pay more than $10 a month, so there is $110 to find. Right now Lifetime Classic Players have ~ 7 real server to play with (if we don't count PlayerWorld that are not finished), so what's wrong when we say to Lifetime CLassic Players, we give you the same number of servers free to play and we ask $1.5/month to be VIP and help paying costs for all the other new servers ?
Now there is something "strange" in your message, you complain on Graal "digging deeper and deeper into everyone’s pockets" and you want money for you ?
Why do you think we are the only Online game to make a lifetime subscription for $29 ($19 before) ? Because this "business" model give you back in your pocket just a few dollar and you can only pay costs because there is new Players that pay for the old one. It mean that if now we have to give a share on this few dollars to all PlayerWorld Owners, we go on the wall.
If Npulse or some Other PlayerWorld owner want to receive money, I am not against it, but it will have to be a subscription based game like is Graal Kingdoms.
Now about the general discussion, is it the good solution to threaten us to optain something ? Isn't it better to open a nice thread and speak before threatening ? The PlayerWorld thread was done for that ...
It was not in my idea to ask actual PlayerWorld to pay, but is it really fair to officialy announce that some will pay and some other will not ?
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Originally posted by Milkdude99
To touch base on what Moon Goddess said as well as konidias let me say this in this light. People have hobbies like Moonie and I it is Graal and people don't mind paying for their hobbies as long as they receive something in return from it . You derive different things from hobbies depending on the person and what they want from their hobby.
Some get a return of money from their hobby if it involves making something for retail sales; their reward is a good product and making money from it. Some hobbies you just get a satisfaction of a job well done from praise of your peers. Regardless of what your hobby is you have to get something back from it to justify keeping that hobby otherwise you will move on to another one that does give some sort of return back to you. Now as far as Graal and us, we worked on Npulse and got satisfaction of trying to make a good PW for others to enjoy as well as ourselves. The money paid out was minimal so it was considered a fair exchange for our hobby.
But lately it has caused nothing but stress due to the changes in Graal for the last year, there is no enjoyment in seeing good projects lay in waste for lack of good people to work on them. Nor is there any enjoyment that now Graal is digging deeper and deeper into everyone’s pockets. Money is only one of the issues, there has to be a return of something given back to those PW Managers who work so many hours to try to please their players and make a quality PW for people to play on. There is also no enjoyment in seeing a lack of rule enforcemment of Graal rules on all servers.All this does is handicap the servers who do by a lower player count, that seriously needs to change or we all will resort to ignoring Graal rules to increase our player count to stay up top.
It has come to the point where there has to be a give and take now from Graal to those who work for the betterment of this game (PW Managers and Global Staff) free hosting isn't going to cut the proverbial mustard, Graal is still receiving all the benefits here, not the ones who are working to make this happen and make Graal profitable.
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