Uh....*thinks*...downloaded eva videos. It was fun tryin' to download 30 megs at like 2 or 3kbps. I started programming in Dos batch files. (yes, it can be done. File access and very very long strings of prompts. It misses of course, variables and anything that could be useful
) I then moved on to QBasic. Learned a bunch of that. No mastery or anything, but I did know quite a bunch. Then a while later I found Graal...and, after playing it endlessly for months, decided to try programming in it, and found that it was easier than both QBasic and Dos Batch Files. Guess if you start out uber-hard things seem easier when you have more available.