[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by unixmad
I will not go on a private talk with you on public forums

I'm happy to take this to whatever medium you want.

but what other tools than the normal vbulletin tools did you need ?

Without admin access, I was unable to:

• Unban people
• Add/remove moderators
• Edit users' sigs or profiles (if somebody had an illegal sig, I couldn't remove it)

These restrictions drastically slowed me down, as I had no choice but to work through the often-unreachable admins.

Also if you think that supporting you for months and months as supermod on forums is not thanking you for the good work, then what were you expecting from me ?

How did you support me?

I known that you are not friend with Moon God or Moon Goddess but they are all 2 like you, old graal supporters and i personaly trust them, what is very important to me.

You can trust them to some extent, yes. They won't go crazy and start deleting the board, because they're more responsible than that. Indeed, they probably won't do anything corrupt if they can't find some way justify it to themselves.

But selection of supermods is in the past now. I know that they won't be removed in the near future, however much I disagree with the decision to hire them. So instead I try to help them see the error in their actions, that they might learn to moderate better. Is this an ignoble goal? All we want is a fair, friendly forum, just like you.

Also it's easy to understand why most managers prefer to choose people they trust for important tasks, so it's not a community choise but a personal choise.

Trust is important, yes. But you would benefit greatly from listening to your users - especially those who've supported Graal in the past. Almost all of the forum oldbies would agree that Kamuii is a better choice. He has the experience, the intelligence and the integrity to be a first-class supermod.

As well as issues of competence, you have to realise that you can't see every side of a player's personality. You trusted Nemesis because he only showed you one side of himself. The players knew that he was corrupt and inept, because they saw his true nature through his actions. If you had listened to them, we could've avoided the nasty circumstances surrounding his departure.

I understand your reluctance to rely on the community for this kind of thing, but you could at least consult a few trusted members? It's a powerful resource, and currently you're not taking advantage of it.

Originally posted by Hevaricubed
people.. go to bed, kaimetsu, its 3 in the morning, unixmad, its 4 in the morning... tempers are made shorter by lack of sleep.

Nocturnal, man. This is morning for me.