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Old 08-23-2003, 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by Tseng


And I still disagree. Trust and Security are very closely interconnected. If you run a business, would you hire a security guard that you did not feel you could trust? No, becuase it would be just asking for your security to be breached.
If they are not trusted their not Staff to begin with. But that has nothing to do with the security of the server. The higher up you are the bigger the target for hackers and script kiddies so you limit the chances of a problem here. You have aceptible limits of libility and those that are not , limiting the people who have serveroptions rights to a very few is acceptible; giving them to the high profile Globals are not because they are even bigger targets.

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Incorrect - if there is a problem with the server options, and the manager asks the global scripting-team member (or even some other staff member who is trustworthy not to ruin things) to fix it, then they have some business having the rights.
Then you make arrangements for both of you to be there to "fix" the problem , giving out those rights is not the right way to fix an issue.

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No, you don't. Your general lack of staff is in large part responsible for this - if you don't have many staff, there aren't many staff to go wrong with whatever rights they are given.
Wrong, we have had Npulse when it was on the top of the Player list so this "theory" doesn't hold water. The amount of Staff or players has no correlation to how a server is managed as to rights of Staff either local or Global. We have plenty of GPs which are the ones who control the gameplay as to the Game rules. What we have is a lack of those who develop the server not run it. (Gats, Nats, Lats)
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For another, these problems are not so much a matter of 'giving the right out' as it is 'giving the right out to the wrong person'. There is nothing objectively wrong with giving the right to people who are trustworthy who can use it to help. And, on these new pay servers, where everyone and their brothers have rights and problems occur frequently, don't you think it's a good idea for one of those people with rights to be someone who is a) knowledgable, b) trustworthy, and c) whose account cannot be directly disabled from the server itself, who can log on and repair things when problems like this exist?
Again no I don't agree with this kind of lame thinking , this are isolated occurances because of those who do not make their server secure but giving out to many rights. If you create your own problem by doing this then you have to pay the price of waiting for days or even a week or more to get it fixed. You don't fix the barn door after the animals are already out you fix the problem before it has a chance to occur. Like I said before Globals are bigger targets than Managers and the best way to get at a server is by attacking a person who has the rights to do the most damage to a server. A person may only want to hurt one server but once they are able to access this "Global" then the idea may come " hey lets go on all servers which he has access to alot on " and not only damage one but many. Sorry but this is not an acceptible risk to me or Moonie and why we do what we do and deny serveroptions to Globals. If they are high enough then they already have those rights globally and that is not anything I have control over so that is an acceptible risk. It doesn't matter if you agree with me or not but our track record with Npulse speaks for itself, it is one of the most secure if not the most secure server online ( 2 1/2 years) and it is by no accident it's that way.


Added note: Why make it easier for people doing stupid things to get them fixed? This does not address the problem but perpetuates the issues by letting them exist. Address the root of the problem and fix that don't add to it by letting the problem continue.
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