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Old 12-28-2012, 02:27 PM
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This thread is about attracting new players. And windows 8 would make a great start and alternative to paying to maybe be added to Steam or any other form of advertisment. You have 3 major competitors in the PC world... Windows, Mac, and Linux.. we already have Mac covered with the App Store (but not for pc's I dont think?) there is nothing in the lines of Windows except a website.. and same with Linux (until Android release) because yes, Andriod's are based off the Linux Kernal.

The point is you want Trials to be F2P... and instead of screwing them over you now want those of us who pay for graal to get nothing extra. You want US to be screwed for paying $60+ a year.. thanks man you really care about us.. We can't even start from scratch and work on Classic (GTA) ourselves.. that would be like saying I want to make Era so lets clone it.. it would never be released.. You wont develop anything new yet you wont let us do it.. you took something historic and screwed ALL OF US.

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I think you're missing the point here. The purpose of this thread appears to be aimed towards attracting a new audience, you'd played through on an account which was upgraded prior to visiting Classic.
Actually I upgraded just to be able to play Classic on a second account since I had already completed ALL quest's on my lifetime account.

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In the case of Classic, those new players who do try the game tend to have had their 5 hours "free time" used up elsewhere, even on servers where observer mode is disabled.
Those are infact not "new" new players but old new players who probably had accounts created prior to the release of Classic. Not really a fair comparison.

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It's important to consider that Classic is supposed to revolve strongly around Questing and Competition, not things like grinding or leveling up stats.
Yeah I understand that but we (everyone on Graal) completed ALL of the quests prior to it's release with promises that there would be no further updates to Classic and that you gave up on Graal why should we play with an attitude like that?

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In terms of competition, we haven't allowed trials into events because of the disruption observer mode would cause, there isn't even a way to determine a trial's remaining "free time". Then there's the trading card game, which tends to last more than 5 minutes, which if you're a trial makes it difficult to avoid entering OM mid game.
Even if I were to release a mini-game or two as a form of grinding as part an economy, trials would still end up prohibited.
Trials aren't suspose to be allowed into event's as it is.. Congratulations on following the rules And correct me if I am wrong but the mines are located south of the bridge "Mine Entry West". So even if the "map restriction" for Trials were implimented and eliminating the Observer Mode that your throwing a huge fit about trials would be able to do the first quest, get card's and play with others, mine (maybe craft things or buy things or potential for a side quest aside from the main storyline?).

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The one thing most people seem to agree on is that players attract players, and I know other servers have different circumstances, but had trials not been on the receiving end of such torment then it's conceivable that upgraded players would have greater reason to stick around. The 2 weeks of free gold was far from anything special in terms of numbers, yet a clear sign of how things can click if allowed to.
Yeah but we beat Classic, saw the end credits and everything. We have to move on to a server whom cares about those of us that do pay for graal. We pay, we deserve more then those who do not pay.
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