[papajchris]

just a comment to your statement jerret, is puppin ACTUALLY doing work now? For the longest time he didn't do a thing on zodiac, hell he left 3/4 the gmap unfinished. Then when he was confronted about it, he'd get all pissy and quit for a few days and then come back, and then quit again and so on.

And jerret your not a bad manager. Your doing alot of behind the scenes work that you don't get credit for. However, it annoys me when a manager lacks social skills with the players that play their server. But i guess you say Xor handles that. Now to bring this thread back on topic, i think Zodiac needs to focus on more tasks that players will recognize. All this behind the scenes work is cool, but many don't notice it. And there has been updates and "new" things, but many of them were once on zodiac before. Granted they werent near as good as they are now, but they aren't new, just redone. Like nation honor and the bounty system. Some new and original things need to be made.