[jkool666]

Mines themselves arn't noobish. The way people use them is. *Example* Four mines on one area is an instant kill. And if that player is also using the infident mine glitch then its extremely cheap. If they put one mine per area it isn't as bad. You can walk and throw pipes wile your friend guards you from anyone else around. But yes as it is now mines are noobish no way around that. They need to be balanced maybe six mines to full kill a player. So thats still about 16 hp each.