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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

I already explained that the burden of proof is on you. You've already displayed a fair amount of ignorance here, and there's no reason to believe that you would have the knowledge you claim. Most people don't.

I started playing with a GUI function on Babylon awhile ago(don't know if it is still there). It opened and closed. I know that it makes GUIs alot easier.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

You think it took a lot of effort to make such a tiny semantic modification? You just keep on proving how little you know.

It doesn't matter. An update is an update, and would it really take alot of effort to implement a few handy things? I'd personally like something to view a player's head name or sword/shield name. Also, I think there should be a better system for setting a head/sword/body/shield, perhaps a built-in character editor (with a filebrowser for the data folders). Alot of newbs don't know about sethead.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Sure, but there's a limit to how much you can change the tileset without completely altering Graal's style. Besides:
1) Zone and GK are currently Graal's flagships, and they don't even use a classic tileset.

They are flagships, but they don't represent the reason Graal is charming. Graal isn't charming because it's an aesthetic monster, it's charming because it looks classical. They should have gone for that, rather than all this RP mumbo jumbo. That having been said, there needs to be more functionality to the actual client, so that it is more user-friendly and useful instead of relying on the playerworlds to bring enhancements up to par.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

2) Stefan doesn't make tilesets. He has some graphical ability, but he's primarily a coder. What do you expect him to do?

I don't expect him to do anything. It is he and Unix's business. I don't care if they do anything.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

You're changing the subject. Your question was this: "what's the point of adding a ton of features in GS2 if less than half of the developing community know how to use it yet?"

A ton of new features, not a ton of features. Obviously they need to have an extensive language to start with for it to be worthwhile, but why do they keep adding when other parts of Graal would be advantageous to improve?

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

The basis of your point was that few people know how to use GS2. Now you're running back - as you always do - to another issue entirely. Can't you ever admit that you were wrong?

You're purpotrating the most common fallacy alive: inventing reality. The basis of my point is that few people need to use GS2 and that as a result, more attention which is normally given to GS2 should be given to aesthetics instead. Stop strawmanning.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

You accused me of doing something. I explained that you were deeply confused, asking why I would even want to do that thing. At what point did I break an unwritten rule? You haven't given any evidence to support your accusation, so what am I supposed to be refuting? By questioning you, I demonstrate that your claims are unfounded.

You're being a red herring. My quitting has nothing to do with the debate at hand.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

What question didn't I answer?

Why are you doing this in a public view if you are just trying to influence my opinion?

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Yes. Directly after calling me arrogant, you go ahead and prove that you are a conceited, hypocritical idiot.

Dude, the entire premise I'm basing my argument about your arrogance around is that you fail to see that I am shredding your arguments. It's not arrogant to point out a fact and then call it arrogance when you try to put forth as though you are winning. No matter how much you cover your ears, stamp your feet, and repeat "I'M WINNING", you still haven't delivered any impressive blows.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

An astonishing feat of logic. Perhaps you could go on to show that an improvement to a client is not actually an update?

Strawmanning. Quote my whole argument and address it as a whole, or don't address it at all. I can slice up your posts too, and trust me, I'd be far more inventive.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Haha, only you would try to use your own ignorance as an point in debate.

So lets say a few people said that I would be a good manager, waaaay back in that 2k1 mudheap. Would you accept their testimonial as fact? I think your blind acceptance is more ludicrous than my "ignorance".

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

That doesn't answer my question. Again: Is it worth sacrificing gameplay just so that the server is slightly more playable in those rare times when the entire server has been deleted?

We'll just have to see how rare it is. I'm not willing to say that it is going to be rare.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Ah, well, that changes everything! After all, who needs reasoning and evidence when you have blind faith?

You tell me. Your baseless acceptance of rumors should make you qualified to give such a testimonial. Unless of course, someone leaked you a version of v4, in which case somebody is breaking some rules.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

So things are only real when they've been observed by a majority of people? I wonder what your imaginary friend would say to that.

Red herring. Stick to the topic or leave.
And as far as Graal/the internet goes? Yeah. I would say so.