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Originally Posted by Zurkiba

If Graal Kingdoms was meant to just be 'fun' then it would be called Graal FUNSERVERLAWLZ. But It's not. Graal Kingdoms was made for one purpose, roleplaying.

Roleplaying was made for one purpose - having fun.

Stop acting like I am against RPing in some way, I again state, I never once suggested sacrificing RPing for fun. Simply, that RPing needs to be fun or there is no point to an RP server.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

I've redone your little "chart"
ZORMITE pros:
Consistent with 2k1 History
Increased diversity
Awesome roleplaying experience
Kingdom uniqueness
Relation to the past
Goes along with the official storyline.

ZORMITE cons:
You're not human (if you consider this a con)

Pros 1 and 5 are the same, but you forget that to tie to the distant past, you have to break the connection to the recent past, which is of more Relavent to GK.
It would be nice to stick to the 'official storyline' but the entire history of Gk has not, and when it comes down to supporting the original story vs. having the GK server's last several years of history make sense, I strongly feel the second is far more important.

Also, as for 'Awesome roleplaying experience' if you implement the old style of zormite you limit their range dramatically. If they are human haters, they can't interact with other kingdoms at all other than in conflicts, which can't work on the server now anyway.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

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You have ignored everything I've said, everything anyone else had said, and continue to go against what we've said to prove us wrong when you have already been proven wrong. Examples? If they can ignore 2k1 history then I can ignore their 'history'.

I have pointed out how that logic is wrong more than once Zurk. The question is not if they can just up and choose to ignore a major part of history, but do they have the right to continue their current history, given that several years ago, when GK was first created, zormite broke from 2k1 history.
If as of yesterday, Zormite followed a 2k1 style storyline, and wanted to change their history to say they were always human, I would probably be on your side. However, that change occured a long long time ago - at the very start of GK. You have to break all history between then and now, in order to revert to a fish based zormite. It becomes an issue of what is more relevant, the way things were many, many years ago or the way things are now. I strongly argue, we should build on GK, and not just wipe it away over a characteristic that ceased to exist many years ago.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Recapture the past? Hardly. If I take Shakesphere and change all the names of the male protagonists to Zurkiba then that's just fine and dandy right? Well it's not. And if I did that then people would be pissed off at me.

That is a bad example, you are talking about changing a widely printed series of works. You can do it to your own copies for sure, as copyright laws for works as old as Shakespeare place them effectively in the public domain.

On the flip side, if you found an old manuscript, that offered an alternate ending to romeo and juliet that he had written, you could not 'demand' everyone discard the normal version of that play.

Now........the fact you chose to wipe the list of cons about changing zormite to fish people, gives me the impression you just don't care about those impacts. You don't care about the negative impact on 2k2 history, or that the people of zormite don't want changed, or how much it would disrupt the 2k2 server to wipe a long standing kingdom and replace it with some other version.
Granted, you can have your own priorities for sure, but if they don't reflect what other people want, you should not expect others to readily adopt your ideas, or agree with your views.

When you say you have said what 'everyone else has said' remember that the majority of GK is not interested in enacting your ideas for Zormite, and the members of Zormite surely are not interested at all.