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bumpertobumper 08-12-2001 04:33 AM

graal,a one man show,why??
 
any pay to play game owes it to its subscribers a person or persons on staff 24/7 to fix problems that may arise.just because stefan is on vacation or sleeping or whatever (which he is surely entitled to)does this mean that we have to wait for his return to fix a problem?when you sign up and pay to play graal you read a lengthly paragraph about what graal expects from you,where is it written about what you can expect from graal?we as consumers should get the support needed to keep this game running smoothly.

Aknts 08-12-2001 04:41 AM

Yeah fix the damn npc server

Nastazio 08-12-2001 04:42 AM

people need to realize that Stefan is human, he has a life, he is intiteld (sp?) to a vacation after working his ass off for who? the little beggers of graal who nag at him 24/7, he isn't god.

Nastazio 08-12-2001 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aknts
Yeah fix the damn npc server
Would you rush home from a vacation just to fix something like that? no, so please shut the hell up

MrCoolDude 08-12-2001 04:44 AM

He should have a backup NPC Server or something incase it goes out.

08-12-2001 04:48 AM

We're talking about having other people around who can fix it, Nastazio, not to have Stefan around all the time. Because the way things are now, he is the only one who is around who can fix the NPC Server. We need other people who can do that.

Birdbird_0 08-12-2001 04:49 AM

=/ the probem is that most of the players on graal do not know how to handle staff positions, and they cannot be trusted with rcs and that amout of power, =/

Quistor 08-12-2001 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
=/ the probem is that most of the players on graal do not know how to handle staff positions, and they cannot be trusted with rcs and that amout of power, =/
Unixmad should go into overdrive when Stefan's not here. And Loriel could do it as well. There is no reason for us to be without any NPCs on a game that people pay for.

cheaterzx22 08-12-2001 04:52 AM

What he could do is write some program to detect when the npcserver goes down and start it back up.

MavurikX 08-12-2001 04:55 AM

Nastazio...
 
Don't you get it? You don't charge people for a game service and not provide that service. It is Stefan's fault if something goes wrong because:

- It is HIS game
- He is asking us to PAY for a SERVICE and by PAYing he MUST provide that SERVICE to those who PAY.
- When problems arise and we are not getting the SERVICE we have PAYED for then he is not doing his job.

In other words, if we're going to pay for an online game, if there's any problems they must be fixed since we're paying. If it was some non-p2p server then tehy wouldn't have that big of an obligation to fix things. They'd only have to do it if they wanted a good name. But with P2P we're promised better features and gameplay and by things failing like the NPCSERVER we're not getting better gameplay. Stefan should make sure things like this don't happen or he shouldn't promise us things that he can't provide.

Asmodeus-James 08-12-2001 04:55 AM

I wish unixmad could be on more when Stefan is gone.

Birdbird_0 08-12-2001 04:55 AM

you need to get adults working here, the problem is that no one will work here with people mass pming crap about guilds, fake money, bomy selling hats and other crap.

Metal-Slug 08-12-2001 04:56 AM

i am the worst NPC Scripter in the worl, but i know how to reset the server, and start everything back up, i was NPC Admin on Cite Perdu for a while.

Asmodeus-James 08-12-2001 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
you need to get adults working here, the problem is that no one will work here with people mass pming crap about guilds, fake money, bomy selling hats and other crap.
I get flooded with stupid messages like that, like, "HOW CAN I GET HATS AND GRALAT, U CAN GIV ME GRALT WITH YUR RC DUDE?"

Ugh, I get kind of sick of it.

Aknts 08-12-2001 04:57 AM

Oh shut up he gets paid to make Graal better. Its not like he does it for free. And from the usual updates it doesnt look like he does much at all.

Birdbird_0 08-12-2001 04:58 AM

Re: Nastazio...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MavurikX
Don't you get it? You don't charge people for a game service and not provide that service. It is Stefan's fault if something goes wrong because:

- It is HIS game
- He is asking us to PAY for a SERVICE and by PAYing he MUST provide that SERVICE to those who PAY.
- When problems arise and we are not getting the SERVICE we have PAYED for then he is not doing his job.

In other words, if we're going to pay for an online game, if there's any problems they must be fixed since we're paying. If it was some non-p2p server then tehy wouldn't have that big of an obligation to fix things. They'd only have to do it if they wanted a good name. But with P2P we're promised better features and gameplay and by things failing like the NPCSERVER we're not getting better gameplay. Stefan should make sure things like this don't happen or he shouldn't promise us things that he can't provide.

gwad, the guy has a life and he needs a break, and this will be fixed -_-, even though you payed for the game, does not meen an admin with that power has to be on 24/7 it would be nice, but unpractical.

cheaterzx22 08-12-2001 05:01 AM

Wait, didn't you pay for access to the server? Not for the things on the server. God, i look at things too much like a lawyer. I gotta stop doin that.

Metal-Slug 08-12-2001 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aknts
Oh shut up he gets paid to make Graal better. Its not like he does it for free. And from the usual updates it doesnt look like he does much at all.
no one gets paid for graal, stefan invented it, unixmaxid hosts it, who gets paid for paying?

Birdbird_0 08-12-2001 05:02 AM

almost all of the money goes to the isp of graal, the servers and such.

MavurikX 08-12-2001 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Asmodeus-James


I get flooded with stupid messages like that, like, "HOW CAN I GET HATS AND GRALAT, U CAN GIV ME GRALT WITH YUR RC DUDE?"

Ugh, I get kind of sick of it.

Oh yeah I know... it's especially annoying since there's signs and staff everywhere that tell you:

"This is how you make money, there are these ways, it costs this much, here's some money to start out so it's not so hard for you PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST STARTING OUT, have fun."

And you know how they're always happy to answer your questions and solve your problems. I can't believe it. ::ending sarcasm in case you didn't notice::

God shut up. Staff shouldn't complain at all. If you don't like your job don't do it. FAQs answer questions. Deal with it. People ask stupid questions sometimes. Some people may be new to the game, therefore you should have some sort of intro INSIDE the game (seeing as most people dont go through training and that the training mode is insufficient anyways to keep people from being called NOOB when they start out) that tells people all the things they'll need to know. If anything is more annoying than noobs asking questions, its complaining staff.

Aknts 08-12-2001 05:06 AM

Stefan gets paid to make Graal better ask him. He has said it plenty of times. And im not syaing he only gets money from account bought Cyberjeur or some company pays him

MavurikX 08-12-2001 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheaterzx22
Wait, didn't you pay for access to the server? Not for the things on the server. God, i look at things too much like a lawyer. I gotta stop doin that.
Go read the Graal statement. I'm paying for a service, not access to the server. If I was paying for access to the server I'd be able to put things on it and use it for as long as I'm paying for access to the server. How much do you know about computers little boy? We're paying for a game, not access to the server. We have access to Graal servers already. We just don't have access to the extra features/gameplay additions, which have to be paid for. Therefore, the create a seperate server where you can pay for these thigns and play. We are in no way paying for access TO the server, we are paying for access to the EXTRAS. It's not like it costs any more money to run a p2p server than a normal one. P2P servers just have more features and we're paying for the features not the server.

CrazedMerlin 08-12-2001 05:12 AM

wow professionalism at its best

Metal-Slug 08-12-2001 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
almost all of the money goes to the isp of graal, the servers and such.
exactly

Aknts 08-12-2001 05:17 AM

IS it me or did he say access why to much?

TrueHeaT 08-12-2001 05:21 AM

jesus christ man there are spaces after periods and commas...

cheaterzx22 08-12-2001 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MavurikX


Go read the Graal statement. I'm paying for a service, not access to the server. If I was paying for access to the server I'd be able to put things on it and use it for as long as I'm paying for access to the server. How much do you know about computers little boy? We're paying for a game, not access to the server. We have access to Graal servers already. We just don't have access to the extra features/gameplay additions, which have to be paid for. Therefore, the create a seperate server where you can pay for these thigns and play. We are in no way paying for access TO the server, we are paying for access to the EXTRAS. It's not like it costs any more money to run a p2p server than a normal one. P2P servers just have more features and we're paying for the features not the server.

Read the license agreement. Who knows more now. And i'm not little im 6 feet tall.
Cyberjoueur does not warrant or guarantee that the Graal Services and Information and the functions or services performed by the administration team will be uninterrupted or error-free.

Aknts 08-12-2001 05:26 AM

Go read the shut up manuel jeeze be quite

cheaterzx22 08-12-2001 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aknts
Go read the shut up manuel jeeze be quite
You spelled "quiet" wrong.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 08-12-2001 05:58 AM

*sighs*
Server is still down
Sucks...

psihunter 08-12-2001 06:06 AM

I r a geed adman giev meh a hi rank RC 0r sumthan an I hlp j0 al de tiemmm!!!

Lugie 08-12-2001 06:18 AM

unixmad just needs to do more, that is all. if he would just realize that stefan cant do everything in-game, then it would all be fine. all unixmad has to do is click one button and the server could be up again..

General 08-12-2001 07:35 AM

We pay for something we should expect higher quality service and some professionalism

But i dont care really, once word gets out how much the staff sux, P2P is going to die...Stefan, people that make tags that say "coder" (loriel) and people who wear *** khakis and threaten to sue anyone who steals zelda's (oops, graals) graphics every 5 min. (unixmad) are not model staff...

My opinion, sorry if I was too lazy to use the shift key or spell check anything. Bye Folks...

Archeon 08-12-2001 07:36 AM

Re: graal,a one man show,why??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bumpertobumper
any pay to play game owes it to its subscribers a person or persons on staff 24/7 to fix problems that may arise.just because stefan is on vacation or sleeping or whatever (which he is surely entitled to)does this mean that we have to wait for his return to fix a problem?when you sign up and pay to play graal you read a lengthly paragraph about what graal expects from you,where is it written about what you can expect from graal?we as consumers should get the support needed to keep this game running smoothly.
FALSE ADVERTISEMENT

people are signing up, money is taken, but they arent getting their accounts, sheesh!

Asmodeus-James 08-12-2001 07:37 AM

Stefan needs to hire someone he knows well and trusts, and have access to these things; maybe not a fulltime job but it would be nice to have someone like Stefan on who could make the kind of decisions Stefan would or could.

Asmodeus-James 08-12-2001 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by General
We pay for something we should expect higher quality service and some professionalism

But i dont care really, once word gets out how much the staff sux, P2P is going to die...Stefan, people that make tags that say "coder" (loriel) and people who wear *** khakis and threaten to sue anyone who steals zelda's (oops, graals) graphics every 5 min. (unixmad) are not model staff...

My opinion, sorry if I was too lazy to use the shift key or spell check anything. Bye Folks...

Too bad Stefan only hired about 5% of the staff we have now.

Archeon 08-12-2001 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Asmodeus-James


Too bad Stefan only hired about 5% of the staff we have now.

youre right, that is too bad =\

shayden 08-12-2001 08:23 AM

SG111:
 
ROFLMAO!! One more reason to for me to keep my money for nachos over forking it over to amatuers who couldn't make a profit if their life depended on it!!!


-SG111-

Archeon 08-12-2001 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheaterzx22

You spelled "quiet" wrong.

he spelled "manual" wrong, too

General 08-12-2001 11:09 AM

I didnt pay for my account ;)

My friend did though, and he didnt get it


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