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Vman13x 07-27-2009 01:22 AM

A great leader has retired
 
Retired Leader, Rams of (Los Carteles) (Sun Jul 26 19:11:12 2009):
Mass message:
Well Era the word as got out from a few guys I shouldn't have trusted but yes, I'm done with LC. I would personally like to thank each member of LC for helping me out, and bringing back a gang from the bottom to the top. I feel very successful, and believe I did a good job. It was lots of fun, but now that school has started I don't want LC to be effected from me being inactive. I have picked Black to start where I left off and continue the very difficult task of leading Los Carteles. I am not quitting Era, and I will help Black as much as I can. But I hope you all wish Black the best of luck because leading a gang is not easy.

Posting for rams.

Rams was a great leader. Although he did some things I didnt like I respected him for bringing LC to the top. He won many koths and raids and will always be remembered as an LC leader

(He isnt quitting era)

Frankie 07-27-2009 02:11 AM

he is a pretty good leader. I just didn't really like a lot of his decisions with the gang. he gave away too many recruiting ranks and tried way too hard to make everyone happy. that's the only reason why LC had a lot of good members was because most of them were bribed with power. I knew eventually it would die. gangs always follow the same pattern.

salesman 07-27-2009 07:32 AM

R.I.P. Rams

MontyPython 07-27-2009 08:13 AM

Rams can rest easy with such a talented spokesperson.

I just hope you both can share the spot light.

BlueMelon 07-27-2009 02:38 PM

Rams was a nice leader, bought dem armor for me cus im soo poor, He let other lead sometimes it was very nice.
I dont think that having to many recruiters is a bad thing either, say your a good player and you see another good player in a spar or something, you could ask them to join LC..
People with skills i think deserve to have adding powers.
If they abuse them Rams just takes them off.
Same if they add noobs.

Donark 07-27-2009 02:51 PM

Ima miss rams being leader D: , atleast he stills raids with us with that flak cannon. <3

cbk1994 07-27-2009 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1510776)
R.I.P. Rams

This.

Nataxo 07-27-2009 05:32 PM

Good luck in school rams, good decision :)

Aldaris 07-28-2009 03:16 PM

Rams did a great job. He kept the players happy, and he kept the gang active -- what more could you ask for?

Congratulations, Black, and I wish you the best (you too, Rams).

Venom_Fish 07-28-2009 08:15 PM

Rams was a childish leader, he squabbled over members and granted them all they wanted just to "stay" in his gang. LC was nothing more than the back in the day Tachi, with more players in the gang than all other gangs combined. Seara was the exact same type of Leader. Both to me are failures. If the standards for being a good gang leader and "win r". Are winning raids which you outnumber your opponent 16 v 5, then yeah... sales truly is the manager, roflmao.

As I'm reading back, everyone who commented on his leadership are people who couldn't lead even if a GPS was giving them step-by-step directions. Haha.

Scary_Sock 07-29-2009 01:35 AM

Even if Rams had threats against me, he was a very good leader.

Frankie 07-29-2009 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish (Post 1511174)
Rams was a childish leader, he squabbled over members and granted them all they wanted just to "stay" in his gang. LC was nothing more than the back in the day Tachi, with more players in the gang than all other gangs combined. Seara was the exact same type of Leader. Both to me are failures. If the standards for being a good gang leader and "win r". Are winning raids which you outnumber your opponent 16 v 5, then yeah... sales truly is the manager, roflmao.

As I'm reading back, everyone who commented on his leadership are people who couldn't lead even if a GPS was giving them step-by-step directions. Haha.

considering LC won a lot of koths that alone proves that numbers wasn't an issue with us.

Pelikano 07-29-2009 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1511261)
considering LC won a lot of koths that alone proves that numbers wasn't an issue with us.

Well Wil alone would whipe our whole gang in a raid, I was like the only one damaging him -.-

Aldaris 07-29-2009 05:30 AM

I classify Rams as a good leader because he was able to keep me happy. I left the gang, and we had our rough patch of feuds, but he was able to persuade me to rejoin his ranks due to his perspective on what would be best for the gang. Other leaders, if put in the same situation, would have totally disregarded me as a potential member once I left due to this "honor code" that most leaders / recruiters seem to carry. Rams looked past that, and made decisions that benefited the gang, and not just himself.

MontyPython 07-29-2009 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aldaris (Post 1511311)
Other leaders, if put in the same situation, would have totally disregarded me as a potential member once I left due to this "honor code" that most leaders / recruiters seem to carry.

Look, man, I'm not trying to bring up a needless slam here or anything...

...but I'd hardly call it an "honour code". For a while (right around the time Rams first got LC), every time I'd log on you'd be in a different gang, talking **** about the one you just left. Then you'd go back to the original, and start the whole cycle over again. Gang-hoppers aren't really appreciated by anyone, especially ones that start massing **** out about the last one they just left. It's not an honour code that kept you out from other gangs, it's common sense.


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