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Pelikano 07-08-2009 11:57 PM

Bow and Flak
 
Nerf Bow and Flak please

salesman 07-09-2009 12:05 AM

If you're going to suggest something, at least back up your suggestion with reasons why.

FantasyX 07-09-2009 01:07 AM

Why nerf the Flak? It's two of a kind, and the two people that have them are in two different gangs, so it's somewhat balanced.

They earned the flaks.

As for the bows, from what I heard, Squirt decided at like 5 AM to stock 3 Bows and people bought them, including himself. (not sure if this is true, just expressing what I heard)

LordSquirt 07-09-2009 01:19 AM

I never stocked an ET item in my life. I hope that answers any questions.

FantasyX 07-09-2009 01:50 AM

Well, you may have not stocked it, but according to Frank (who was online) bows were stocked in the EC shop at 6 A.M. on a Monday night and you purchased one.

He also said that it was just you and Deophite on RC.

I'm not accusing anyone, but bleh

LordSquirt 07-09-2009 01:59 AM

Obviously if all the bows were bought within the span of 5 minutes the server had plenty of people on. You would be hardpressed to find many people with 120+ EC.

MontyPython 07-09-2009 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1505298)
Nerf Bow and Flak please

Now that's a compelling argument.

FantasyX 07-09-2009 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1505350)
Obviously if all the bows were bought within the span of 5 minutes the server had plenty of people on. You would be hardpressed to find many people with 120+ EC.


Well, Frank claims that he was online at the time at 6 AM when they were stocked, so lol

Aldaris 07-09-2009 05:31 AM

I don't think that either weapon should be nerfed, though I do believe that they should be undroppable.

LordSquirt 07-09-2009 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FantasyX (Post 1505399)
Well, Frank claims that he was online at the time at 6 AM when they were stocked, so lol

why does it matter if Frank was on? I don't think he even had enough EC since he recently bought a flak and was buying flak ammo without saving his EC

Frankie 07-09-2009 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1505350)
Obviously if all the bows were bought within the span of 5 minutes the server had plenty of people on. You would be hardpressed to find many people with 120+ EC.

regardless if they were bought or not, why the hell did you pick 6 am in the morning to stock them? it's obvious that it was done so you would be guaranteed a bow.

LordSquirt 07-09-2009 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1505404)
regardless if they were bought or not, why the hell did you pick 6 am in the morning to stock them? it's obvious that it was done so you would be guaranteed a bow.

As I said before. I never stocked a bow neither did I decide the date/time, but like I said before in my previous post. If the bow was bought out in around 5 minutes it couldn't have been that bad of a time since having 120 EC is not a thing a normal player has.

Pelikano 07-09-2009 01:05 PM

This does not need any arguments.

You try dodging the Bow's Arrows, not to talk about the Flak. The Flak is somewhat balanced tho, since it only does 15 DMG, but it's impossible to dodge a Bow's Arrows + it does 25 dmg. z_Z

Uh and a Bow is better than an M4? This ain't ****ing Disney Land.

DuBsTeRmAn 07-09-2009 02:38 PM

I wish it was disney land ;]

Frankie 07-09-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1505423)
As I said before. I never stocked a bow neither did I decide the date/time, but like I said before in my previous post. If the bow was bought out in around 5 minutes it couldn't have been that bad of a time since having 120 EC is not a thing a normal player has.

did you honestly expect the bows to sell out that quick? it's nothing but a coincidence. that still doesn't really answer why they were stocked at 6 in the morning. regardless of how many people online had 120 EC, there were probably even more people that had the EC that didn't get a chance at getting a bow because it was decided to stock them at a time where maybe 1/4th of the average player count was online.

BlueMelon 07-09-2009 03:47 PM

Bow has no reload!

afk

salesman 07-09-2009 04:20 PM

This is why I removed overpowered weapons from the EC shop.

LordSquirt 07-09-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1505501)
did you honestly expect the bows to sell out that quick? it's nothing but a coincidence. that still doesn't really answer why they were stocked at 6 in the morning. regardless of how many people online had 120 EC, there were probably even more people that had the EC that didn't get a chance at getting a bow because it was decided to stock them at a time where maybe 1/4th of the average player count was online.

I didn't expect anything to happen since I was never the one who stocked it nor did I pick the date/time. I don't understand why you're asking me the same question repeatedly when I already told you I wasn't the deciding factor in ANYTHING related to this. Also, I doubt it could have been a coincidence. Era has a strong European playercount as well that you are totally ignoring.

Scary_Sock 07-09-2009 05:42 PM

Why did Squirt stock the bows in the first place?

DarkRenji 07-09-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Scary_Sock (Post 1505541)
Why did Squirt stock the bows in the first place?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1505323)
I never stocked an ET item in my life. I hope that answers any questions.


Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1505533)
I didn't expect anything to happen since I was never the one who stocked it nor did I pick the date/time.


.....

salesman 07-09-2009 05:48 PM

Squirt I just dont see why you stocked the bow...that's kind of unfair.

Frankie 07-09-2009 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1505533)
I didn't expect anything to happen since I was never the one who stocked it nor did I pick the date/time. I don't understand why you're asking me the same question repeatedly when I already told you I wasn't the deciding factor in ANYTHING related to this. Also, I doubt it could have been a coincidence. Era has a strong European playercount as well that you are totally ignoring.

I acknowledge the fact that you didn't stock the bows, but you're acting like you had no idea that Deo was going to stock them. it's hard to believe. especially since the staff team is known for bias, corruption, and overall stupidity.

regardless who stocked it, there has to be a clear reason why they were stocked at 6 am.

Nataxo 07-09-2009 06:22 PM

I thought it was stocked at that time because it was like afternoon for Zoo, he lives in Sweden

LordSquirt 07-09-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1505553)
I acknowledge the fact that you didn't stock the bows, but you're acting like you had no idea that Deo was going to stock them. it's hard to believe. especially since the staff team is known for bias, corruption, and overall stupidity.

regardless who stocked it, there has to be a clear reason why they were stocked at 6 am.

I honestly didn't even know he was going to stock it. I didn't even know he was going to put it in the EC shop. Also, it's not like OMG this was the first time I was on at 6AM. You can ask Frankie or anybody. I work during the midnight shift at my job so I was always able to be found at these early morning times.

Pelikano 07-09-2009 07:30 PM

Hey so are you guys going to fking nerf the Bow and Flak or not?

MontyPython 07-09-2009 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1505572)
Hey so are you guys going to fking nerf the Bow and Flak or not?

We're still trying to figure out why Squirt stocked the lightsaber and bows (edit: and caltrops) at 6 AM EST in the first place.


And side note - strong European player-base is...a little over-stated. Hell, usually by 1-2 AM my time there's only 25ish people on.

Frankie 07-09-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1505567)
I honestly didn't even know he was going to stock it. I didn't even know he was going to put it in the EC shop. Also, it's not like OMG this was the first time I was on at 6AM. You can ask Frankie or anybody. I work during the midnight shift at my job so I was always able to be found at these early morning times.

I believe you, but you still have to admit it looked pretty suspicious so you can't blame me for thinking the way I did.

BigBear3 07-09-2009 08:20 PM

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Flak and Shrapnel

Fallout 3!

Pelikano 07-09-2009 08:47 PM

MAD NEWS GUYS!

Masa was told straight up NOT TO nerf the Bow.

That's what I heard, no idea by whom tho.

BlueMelon 07-10-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1505615)
MAD NEWS GUYS!

Masa was told straight up NOT TO nerf the Bow.

That's what I heard, no idea by whom tho.

ZoMgZ!

CharlieM 07-10-2009 06:43 PM

It needs mayor nerf (magor g d iPhone) whose eve seen a bow faster then a machine gun

Frankie 07-11-2009 09:06 PM

I think the shots should be a bit delayed, as if you were really pulling an arrow from a quiver, aiming, and shooting.

but they will justify it's power by saying "oh it costed 120 ec." so there's pretty much nothing that will be done.

I don't really play that much anymore so it's not a big deal to me.

Spikedude 07-11-2009 10:06 PM

HOLY **** GUYS, THIS JUST IN

Squirt has a whole arsenal of bows and flak cannons in his secret desert base of Area 51. He used them to take down an alien ship in Roswell. Then he used photographs to blackmail Deophite into quitting. Now, he's going to buff the bows and flak cannons just to smite you.

But honestly Squirt, why did you personally, at 6AM, decide to sign onto Graal, go on an ETA tag, and stock 323 bows and 211 flak cannons for yourself?

cbk1994 07-11-2009 10:17 PM

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rtcwgarde 07-11-2009 10:25 PM

Some peoples can't see further than their nose...
it was stocked at 6AM because zoo was eta and he's on a different time zone.

Aldaris 07-11-2009 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtcwgarde (Post 1506218)
Some peoples can't see further than their nose...
it was stocked at 6AM because zoo was eta and he's on a different time zone.

Only Pandas.

Pelikano 07-11-2009 10:37 PM

Who gives a **** how Squirt got his bow.

Fact is he straight up told Masa:

"The bow is limited, so you're not allowed to nerf it"

Uh, -ah!

Aldaris 07-11-2009 10:41 PM

Instead of nerfing it, maybe this should apply:

1 EC = 100 arrows (instead of 1,000).

CharlieM 07-12-2009 12:22 AM

or 1 EC equals 1 arrow

Pelikano 07-12-2009 02:10 AM

1 EC is 1000 arrows? LOL


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