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Stokell88 04-14-2009 09:52 AM

New Black Holst Levels!
 
I think they look great, and i know alot of effort went into them!

Well done to everyone involved :)

Crow 04-14-2009 10:35 AM

Mind posting some screenshots?

fragman85 04-14-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stokell88 (Post 1483742)
I think they look great, and i know alot of effort went into them!

Well done to everyone involved :)

Yeah it's awesome.
Especially the fact that the outside doesn't fit with the inside AT ALL.
Plus the Elevator is way too big and it got a couch and a table with seats in it oO??!
I also really think that the Base doesn't have to be that Big, the Meeting and the "Suit Room" could be easily put together into one level.
Some of the Levels really aren't PK-friendly either :S. (So many breakable crates spread in the whole base, just for the cause of it oO)
And for some strange reason the Roof Door got 1000, instead of 500 HP.
Plus on the inside levels of the Roof, there are two doors with 500 HP, which lead to a random room with the function of the Suit Room, but nothing else in it. Why do the Doors have 500 HP? Once you got into the Base, there shouldn't be anything you have to break, just like in the other bases. Not to talk of, that the room is pretty much nothing at all.
The Spar Room only got 5, instead of 6 Medis, which is unfair, since BB got 6. Oh and the Floor is copied from BB and some tiles were a little changed, looks kinda unprofessional :o.
The Button to open the Elevator in the Healing room is like a mile away from the Elevator doors, which makes it more difficult to "run", than in other bases, such as BB's.

I could go on and write an essay x_X

Btw. there's a tile Error in the Healing Room.

The_Blue_Cracka 04-14-2009 02:28 PM

I guess no one finds the fact that wooden doors with knobs are opening like elevator doors weird.

papajchris 04-14-2009 06:48 PM

I like the base overall, but there some inconsistencies. Overall though i think its better. And yeah bl0nk now the doors annoy me because you pointed that out. I won't be able to go in there without getting annoyed lol

salesman 04-14-2009 06:56 PM

It's a decent base, but it just seems weird for BH.

DKH89 04-14-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1483841)
It's a decent base, but it just seems weird for BH.

got on today and saw it and couldnt agree more. Its basically the same as era mafia now

MontyPython 04-14-2009 07:32 PM

There's huge style conflictions.

Modernistic metallic exterior is clearly a time machine, because once you step in the base you're in a 1950s Mafia style base.

These mafia types, however, are much more refined than most gangs. They seem to be more concerned with decorating the place with plant life and couches than actually fighting. That's something I've never quite understood. I guess you're sitting there making the level thinking "how can I add some decorations?", but the best thing you can come up with is plants? I really doubt too many gangs or mafias dedicated their bases as part-time greenhouses. I definitely may be wrong about this, but I feel like the "decorations" would have been more in line with bags of what seems to be flour, firearms, knives, explosives, and centerfolds. Granted, you can't put all of that in a game that allows (and seems to almost be entirely played by) 13 year olds, but you get the idea.

I think you could get much more creative than plants.

And let's talk about the decorating style...
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5159/27189764.th.png
Here we see that Black Holst is very multi-cultural, sporting Bonsai plants in addition to generic-potted-plant-that-has-been-around-since-the-beginning-of-era.

There's two Bonsai. Lined up in perfect unison. You don't get that kind of symmetry in nature often, much less in a gang base. That's just not even close to realistic. If you HAD two bonsai, you wouldn't stack them directly together, especially IF they're the exact same bloody bonsai.

And they're also concerned about plant's comfort, dedicating what appears to be small chairs so the two potted plants can sit comfortably. I guess because they're so old, over-used, and tired, they can't stand on their own anymore. Note again them being lined up perfectly well together. That kind of stuff happens everywhere, I just refuse to waste the time to gather up a bunch of screenshots to belabor the point. Go look for yourself, it's impossible to miss.

And do I even need to mention the mini-space-station sized elevator? Complete with, yes, plants, couches, and even a table with some refreshments in case the elevator gets stuck. Best part though? They somehow figured out how to create automatic sliding WOODEN doors.

Bravo.

Frankie 04-14-2009 07:54 PM

The outside looks like a warehouse type building. Definitely a good theme for BH since that's how the base has been ever since it came to existence. What the hell is with the 1000 hp door on the roof? That's stupid. The garage door is 500 hp but the door right above it is 1000 hp. That makes no sense.

Monty pretty much explained what I would say about the main floor. Sliding wooden doors? Bonsai trees? Wine bottles? Wine cabinets? Fancy lights and wall paper? Seriously now.

The elevator is stupid. Wood flooring with an ugly carpet pattern that looks like "8H" since what supposedly is a "B" looks like an eight. I also find it interesting how there's tables, chairs, and a couch inside the elevator. All it does is get in the way especially during a raid. What were they thinking?!

I also find it funny how there's a bar and bartender on pretty much every floor. No clue what they were trying to do here. Why do bases have to be so fancy like this?

The_Blue_Cracka 04-14-2009 07:58 PM

I wish our god damn LATs would stick to themes instead of beauty pageants.

BlueMelon 04-14-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blue_Cracka (Post 1483857)
I wish our god damn LATs would stick to themes instead of beauty pageants.

Exactly.

The old one needed no change at all.

DKH89 04-15-2009 03:17 AM

i knew this **** would happen when our lat admin is someone who wasnt evn from era and when mesh was hired

TSAdmin 04-15-2009 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DKH89 (Post 1484018)
i knew this **** would happen when our lat admin is someone who wasnt evn from era and when mesh was hired

hmm, assuming the LAT Admin is still Curtis, and this is what you think, then this is definitely going to piss you off: Curtis is from Era :p

deathbarrier99 04-15-2009 03:34 AM

What? Why is this a Mafia now?

I give up.

Curt1zzle 04-15-2009 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1484025)
hmm, assuming the LAT Admin is still Curtis, and this is what you think, then this is definitely going to piss you off: Curtis is from Era :p


Haha, yea..Well he's wrong in the fact that I'm LAT Admin. I quit when Angel resigned.

He's also wrong since I've played Era since conception in that warm hotel room on a drunken Saturday night.

Clockwork 04-15-2009 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Curt1zzle (Post 1484068)
Haha, yea..Well he's wrong in the fact that I'm LAT Admin. I quit when Angel resigned.

He's also wrong since I've played Era since conception in that warm hotel room on a drunken Saturday night.

Awe...I remember that night ;o

I left and never came back after some of the things I saw.

DazJenova 04-15-2009 01:00 PM

I aint been too well at all recently and had family issues but i've fixed the BH elevator and also fixed the link to sewers on the buttons, no elevator should have a bloody couch/tables/chairs etc in. That's just retarded. I also removed that rediculas attempt of BH on the floor which said 8H.

DKH89 04-15-2009 08:12 PM

mesh = fail

CaptainSkittles 04-15-2009 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1484102)
I aint been too well at all recently and had family issues but i've fixed the BH elevator and also fixed the link to sewers on the buttons, no elevator should have a bloody couch/tables/chairs etc in. That's just retarded. I also removed that rediculas attempt of BH on the floor which said 8H.

Bravo.

Hopefully you took out the sliding wooden doors too.

Frankie 04-15-2009 08:56 PM

just re-upload the old base.

BlueMelon 04-15-2009 10:57 PM

the one with the couch D:

fragman85 04-16-2009 12:00 PM

God, I could stand this new BH Base.

But what too much is, is too much!

Era Mafia looks like crap now, omg.

Andre2006 04-16-2009 10:01 PM

I don't like whats been done to Era mafia at all

fragman85 04-21-2009 03:52 PM

Don't want to start any rumours, but I heard that Mesh stole items from player houses abusing his LAT warping rights and he was fired? :o

Frankie 04-21-2009 05:49 PM

yeah. staff tried to cover it up for some reason and say items were mysteriously disappearing from houses. I don't see why they would try to hide that.

GarethOmni 04-22-2009 12:23 AM

With all due respect:
Those levels are atrocious. They do NOT match the BH style, The Era mafia base is not that awesome looking, You should just hunt down the older levels from back in the day and try making those fit in better with some of the wider door styles that are so present.

You are trying too hard to make these levels better, and in doing so you are making them worse. You should stick to your job instead of trying to improve on the jobs already done/completed.

I'm not trying to insult the LAT that completed the BH and Mafia levels, However I do need to note that you should be focusing on making them tailored to Era and not your tastes. Wide spacious levels with some cover makes for great pking, but bad for a non-pking area because then you don't have an excuse for all that space. :(

BlueMelon 04-22-2009 12:53 AM

yay back to the couch :D

CharlieM 04-22-2009 01:07 AM

BH base was reuploaded not really a prob anymore

GarethOmni 04-22-2009 01:23 AM

I wouldnt know, It's been a bit since I've been in there with the not so awesome levels ;o


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