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Deophite18 01-19-2009 11:05 AM

Hat Auction
 
Squirt and I are hosting a Hat auction this coming Saturday around 5 PM Central. The hats being auctioned off are secret. But for all the rare hat lovers I am sure you will be pleased. There will probably be around 8 hats auctioned off in all. Bring lots of cash! :D

LordSquirt 01-19-2009 11:11 AM

There will also be a special prize that will be auctioned at the end. The item will be rare, so you better come if you want a chance on obtaining the item!

Liberated 01-19-2009 04:08 PM

when you say lots of cash do you mean like 50k+ or how much do you mean?
i've got like 2$ atm.

Pelikano 01-19-2009 04:55 PM

I don't really see a point in this, especially because of the different Timezones a lot of players can't get online (UK Players), and believe me, there are a lot of UK Players.

Whatever, Life's a *****.

BlueMelon 01-19-2009 04:58 PM

sounds fun :) It will also bring Money out of economy! Yay! :)

Aldaris 01-19-2009 07:05 PM

Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes and they won't make the "special prize" something ridiculously powerful.

salesman 01-19-2009 07:16 PM

The auction for the "rare item" should be up for 24 hours or so, so everyone has a chance.

Pelikano 01-19-2009 07:27 PM

Agreed.

LordSquirt 01-19-2009 07:29 PM

Ya, that's a good idea. I'll bring it up with Deophite when he comes on.

illogic 01-19-2009 09:15 PM

I'm in!!

deathbarrier99 01-19-2009 10:01 PM

Deo you must really be in a rush to release as many rare items as possible huh?

BlueMelon 01-19-2009 11:50 PM

Well we all know what people are getting the items eh? The rich.

Freudian_slip 01-20-2009 12:23 AM

Release helicopters and motorcycles, afk

Nataxo 01-20-2009 02:09 AM

I'll come.

Even thoguh I ain't got much money =P

And BTW since you will be just besides the apartments... can you um.... fix them? =D

Frankie 01-20-2009 03:31 AM

auction off rare hats and just watch people make tons of profit off of it >.> great for the economy guys!

Aldaris 01-20-2009 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1458375)
auction off rare hats and just watch people make tons of profit off of it >.> great for the economy guys!

Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe they should release mass quantities of each hat (8-10 for each hat).

salesman 01-20-2009 03:36 AM

it's not like it matters at this point anyways

Exile_P2P 01-20-2009 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1458378)
it's not like it matters at this point anyways

^^^^

Aldaris 01-20-2009 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1458378)
it's not like it matters at this point anyways

True, but why add to the forest fire?

ArushenP2P 01-20-2009 12:25 PM

Being in a arsonist's shoes, it's purely for entertaining purposes. Not that I am an arsonist.

*Surprisingly watches the forest fire with amazement*

I'm sure Era staff can use their ingenuity to implement systems/ideas that can take more money out of the economy, and slowly re-balance the economic system, but this kind of idea shouldn't be part of the re-balancing act for the economy. Maybe they just want to release more secret hats :P.

Anyways, players can just set the value of the "secret/rare item", because chances are they will be only a single or few of them in the economy, and the value won't go down unless you have multiple of them selling for a low price. Players won't choose to opt for a lower price if they don't want it anymore, and want to get rid of it as soon as possible.

Andre2006 01-20-2009 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1458358)
I'll come.

Even thoguh I ain't got much money =P

And BTW since you will be just besides the apartments... can you um.... fix them? =D

I totally agree with the apartments, bring them back I've waited to long, I can't wait no more!!!!!!!:mad:

Yocas 01-20-2009 04:20 PM

I never understood Graal's concepts of hats. Why the hell are some hats worth more than the items that are an actual benefit? I could understand if the hats gave you special buffs like extra health or speed but they're just there for appearance. I always thought it was stupid as hell when someone would try to trade me some ugly "rare" hat for an actual gun.

Does that make sense at all?

Andre2006 01-20-2009 05:20 PM

What I wanna know is, why cant you just put theese hats to the original hatshops? :P

Frankie 01-20-2009 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aldaris (Post 1458410)
True, but why add to the forest fire?

there's an even bigger question to it.

basically, auctioning off hats we can say is "fun" for the players. I use this term loosely.

they're only doing it because of the bad state of the economy.
with that being said, if the economy was actually fixed, does that mean they can't do anymore "fun" stuff?

I hope I'm making sense. it's pretty hard to explain. basically because the economy is ****, the staff are just doing random stuff they wouldn't normally do if the economy was actually stable. that's really stupid because then one day you're just going to yank all that stuff away and pretty much say play times over, now we're being serious.

same reason why I don't support giving every gun to the players before you reset. this effects the economy, trust me. there were certain guns that used to be extremely rare before Jenn's reset. when all the players got their hands on them, they got used to it. eventually these "rare" guns started getting released as public items and screwed a lot of things up.

BlueMelon 01-20-2009 09:55 PM

Ye they make a profit.. But off money thats already in the economy. If the money is destroyed after the auction then it will help right?

Andre2006 01-20-2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMelon (Post 1458508)
Ye they make a profit.. But off money thats already in the economy. If the money is destroyed after the auction then it will help right?

Yes that is correct!, but I still don't see why they wont put theese in regular hat shops.

Yocas 01-20-2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andre2006 (Post 1458510)
Yes that is correct!, but I still don't see why they wont put theese in regular hat shops.

Because players over-value these stupid hats.

Frankie 01-21-2009 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMelon (Post 1458508)
Ye they make a profit.. But off money thats already in the economy. If the money is destroyed after the auction then it will help right?

you're exchanging money for an item.

say a hat sells for 500k in the auction house. 500k will be removed from the money supply of the economy, but in return an item that is worth 500k is being put into the economy. since generally rare items sell for a lot more than bought, we're going to assume that the hat will now sell on the market for 600k, 100k more than what it was bought for.

eventually from jobs, the 500k will be put back into the economy. the 500k that was removed from the auction doesn't even matter anymore because of all the money made from jobs. so in the end, you didn't remove any money from the economy, and you also put an item in the economy that's worth a lot, which is why auctioning items is bad.

any questions?

Yocas 01-21-2009 03:45 AM

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5306/samplech8.pnghttp://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8291/sample2wu9.png

I say try something like this.

Note: THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT

CharlieM 01-21-2009 04:40 AM

so basically how the economy in rl works to a base, I get it a bit but if one part crashes it all crashes

Logic 01-21-2009 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1458375)
auction off rare hats and just watch people make tons of profit off of it >.> great for the economy guys!

Tis true,

Because once someone buys that hat, it'll turn MORE rare, so that will increase in value.

Not a good idea.

Liberated 01-21-2009 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logic (Post 1458652)
Tis true,

Because once someone buys that hat, it'll turn MORE rare, so that will increase in value.

Not a good idea.

who'd want a silly hat anyway?

Logic 01-21-2009 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberated (Post 1458656)
who'd want a silly hat anyway?

Once people stop selling/trading guns, they go for the second wanted items as of now, Hats.

ManDown 01-21-2009 08:43 AM

**** the UK people we doing this **** or what?

deathbarrier99 01-21-2009 02:00 PM

Someone ban him?

CharlieM 01-21-2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManDown (Post 1458658)
**** the UK people we doing this **** or what?

It's Wednesday you dumb****...This was set for saturday.

Freudian_slip 01-21-2009 05:09 PM

Honestly I think all the hats should be thrown in shops to buy or go back to the sethat system. I mean, it's a hat. Let people dress themselves D:

As for taking money out of the economy, it honestly will. Do you seriously think people will mine or do any job for 500k? That would take ages and it's a stupid hat, not a lame gun or anything.

Yocas 01-21-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freudian_slip (Post 1458713)
Honestly I think all the hats should be thrown in shops to buy or go back to the sethat system. I mean, it's a hat. Let people dress themselves D:

As for taking money out of the economy, it honestly will. Do you seriously think people will mine or do any job for 500k? That would take ages and it's a stupid hat, not a lame gun or anything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberated (Post 1458656)
who'd want a silly hat anyway?

Exactly. What the hell do you guys see in hats? You can easily edit it onto your head if you want one that badly. Next, people are going to start paying over 100 grand for custom shields. I could MAYBE understand if this was strictly a chatting server like Unholy Nation where appearance could possibly mean something but it's not.

"seling rare hat 4 a mansion, PM ME 4 OFFAZ"

Seriously, who was the guy that started offering to buy hats for over 200 bucks? Rare or not, it's just dumb as hell.

DarkRenji 01-21-2009 08:52 PM

I sold my pokemon hat for 550k

BlueMelon 01-21-2009 09:11 PM

see i dont know why hats are so rare? Theres no point in hats, but for looks...


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