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[email protected] 01-19-2009 02:39 AM

Radio Script
 
Hello, I would Like to make a radio for my server. I have an idea of how I can do this, But I am not sure if it will work right.

Ok, basically I want to make it play a .mp3 file I upload to the folder I made, .mp3.

Would It go like this?

For Example, this is the song I want to do now.

Immortal Technique - The Illest(1).mp3

It is uploaded and I just want to know if this would work.



play("Immortal Technique - The Illest(1).mp3");


Could this work?

I dont want to run it from a site, just from the server, because it is uploaded to the folders. Ok, please help.\

Thanks

-jamerson

Loriel 01-19-2009 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 1458132)
-jamerson

Signing your posts is against the rules in this forum.

Edit: Also I think uploading MP3s you cannot transfer the copyright to GraalOnline of is against the rules as well.

Chompy 01-19-2009 03:17 AM

As Loriel said, if you do not have the permission or isn't the creator of the MP3-file, you may not upload it into the file browser. That's against the rules and is illegal.

So you'll have to stream the file from a website instead.

Loriel 01-19-2009 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1458139)
As Loriel said, if you do not have the permission or isn't the creator of the MP3-file, you may not upload it into the file browser.

I am pretty sure you need copyright, not permission or creatorship.

Chompy 01-19-2009 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1458143)
I am pretty sure you need copyright, not permission or creatorship.

You're right. (If you're the creator, you can upload it though.)

When I last searched for freeware music and midi files, all these royalty free ones popped up, saying that you could only use them for personal use. Wouldn't that exclude usage on Graal? Just wondering.

Loriel 01-19-2009 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1458144)
If you're the creator, you can upload it though

Not if you transfered copyright to someone else, though! Also, uh, generally not if you gave someone else exclusive usage rights already, or something funny like that, I guess.

(Not a lawyer, did not read the Graal rules recently, hate music)

Quote:

When I last searched for freeware music and midi files, all these royalty free ones popped up, saying that you could only use them for personal use. Wouldn't that exclude usage on Graal? Just wondering.
I am pretty sure that would.

Programmer 01-19-2009 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1458136)
Signing your posts is against the rules in this forum.

I do not see any rule forbidding this.

Jamerson, I believe that it is an infringement of the GraalOnline Terms and Conditions to upload copyrighted music to the server and then play it to the end user. If anything, just stream it. There doesn't seem to be anything that does not allow this.

maximus_asinus 01-19-2009 12:42 PM

NPC Code:
all posts must be properly formatted and in CODE


HTML Code:

HTML or
PHP Code:

PHP tags.

Forum rules


Loriel 01-19-2009 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Programmer (Post 1458168)
I do not see any rule forbidding this.

Oh, that is just an oversight then. I would totally have put it in the rules if I had thought of it.

LoneAngelIbesu 01-19-2009 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1458144)
When I last searched for freeware music and midi files, all these royalty free ones popped up, saying that you could only use them for personal use. Wouldn't that exclude usage on Graal? Just wondering.

If you're streaming the music from a separate webserver, then you don't face any copyright infringement liability, neither does Graal. The owner of the webserver that has uploaded it, and made it available for streaming, does. It's the same concept that protects MP3 search engines.

So, as long as the files are being streamed, rather than played from the server, he should be fine. Of course, you should probably heed the webserver's rules, which probably prohibits streaming. If you're in need of good, royalty-free music provider, search for OC Remix.

Loriel 01-19-2009 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu (Post 1458258)
If you're streaming the music from a separate webserver, then you don't face any copyright infringement liability, neither does Graal.

That sounds a bit questionable. By the same logic, bittorrent trackers are perfectly legal because they just provide links and do not actually store the illegaly distributed material in question.

CharlieM 01-19-2009 06:39 PM

A lot of the music companies have decided not to go after online copy infringment legally anymore because of the fact its almost impossible to stop it

LoneAngelIbesu 01-19-2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1458263)
That sounds a bit questionable. By the same logic, bittorrent trackers are perfectly legal because they just provide links and do not actually store the illegaly distributed material in question.

Well, I usually avoid discussions on the legality of anything bittorrent. I'm no expert on how bittorrent works, but the legality of any online copyright infringement lies in whether or not the work is being copied and redistributed. With bittorrent, it's practically impossible to NOT redistribute the torrents you're downloading. With streaming, though, you're neither downloading nor redistributing.

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Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1458268)
A lot of the music companies have decided not to go after online copy infringment legally anymore because of the fact its almost impossible to stop it

I heard about this. I have been seeing a lot less MediaSentry on PeerGuardian...

Loriel 01-19-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu (Post 1458269)
With streaming, though, you're neither downloading nor redistributing.

I am refering to whether Graal or the tracker are doing anything legally questionable, not the guys actually downloading the music.

Loriel 01-19-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1458268)
A lot of the music companies have decided not to go after online copy infringment legally anymore because of the fact its almost impossible to stop it

Please stop posting in this forum

Twinny 01-19-2009 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1458263)
That sounds a bit questionable. By the same logic, bittorrent trackers are perfectly legal because they just provide links and do not actually store the illegaly distributed material in question.

That's the PirateBay's logic and it's working for them. They only store a hash on their servers thus companies find it impossible to sue them through Swedish law :)

Loriel 01-19-2009 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1458310)
That's the PirateBay's logic and it's working for them. They only store a hash on their servers thus companies find it impossible to sue them through Swedish law :)

Yeah, Swedish law. Graal is operating in France and has servers in the US, as far as I know. It is not going to work there. :(

Edit: Also it did not protect PirateBay from being harassed by the police and having their hardware confiscated. I can imagine team Eurocenter would be more than willing to disallow people illegaly streaming music in order to avoid that.

xXziroXx 01-20-2009 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1458313)
Edit: Also it did not protect PirateBay from being harassed by the police and having their hardware confiscated. I can imagine team Eurocenter would be more than willing to disallow people illegaly streaming music in order to avoid that.

They also got their hardware back since the police had no right to cease it in the first place.

Loriel 01-20-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1458326)
They also got their hardware back since the police had no right to cease it in the first place.

I am sure that comforted them after the huge downtime, loss of ad revenue and all the effort and lawyer money dumped into getting everything back.

Twinny 01-20-2009 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1458339)
I am sure that comforted them after the huge downtime, loss of ad revenue and all the effort and lawyer money dumped into getting everything back.

This was there response,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate Bay Legal Team
Just some stats... ... here are some reasons why TPB is down sometimes - and how long it usually takes to fix:
Tiamo gets *very* drunk and then something crashes: 4 days
Anakata gets a really bad cold and noone is around: 7 days
The US and Swedish gov. forces the police to steal our servers: 3 days
.. yawn.


fowlplay4 01-20-2009 02:23 AM

private trackers is where its at and heres a snippet to a radio script, now you put the rest of the puzzle together!

PHP Code:

//#CLIENTSIDE
function onCreated() {
  
play("http://www.link.to/some/song.mp3");


Don't bother trying to play MP3's you upload to the graal server since there is just not enough room to work with as well as the 1MB~ download limit so find a webhost you can upload music and link to. http://www.vinden.nl also has a mp3 search! just food for thought.

LoneAngelIbesu 01-20-2009 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1458271)
I am refering to whether Graal or the tracker are doing anything legally questionable, not the guys actually downloading the music.

I can't see any reason why Graal would be liable for streaming content, unless the content is actually hosted on their servers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1458313)
I can imagine team Eurocenter would be more than willing to disallow people illegaly streaming music in order to avoid that.

Organizations like MediaSentry scanning GraalOnline? There are bigger fish in the ocean.

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1458360)
Don't bother trying to play MP3's you upload to the graal server since there is just not enough room to work with as well as the 1MB~ download limit so find a webhost you can upload music and link to. {URL} also has a mp3 search! just food for thought.

You've earned yourself a nip in the butt from the moderation team. Might want to do some quick editing. ^^

Pelikano 01-20-2009 01:26 PM

LOL signing posts is illegal? wtf

xXziroXx 01-20-2009 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1458360)
Don't bother trying to play MP3's you upload to the graal server since there is just not enough room to work with as well as the 1MB~ download limit so find a webhost you can upload music and link to. http://www.vinden.nl also has a mp3 search! just food for thought.

If you have MP3's created for your server in question, Stefan can and will raise the download limit as long as you have proof of creation. We had Oinkness record himself and put on YouTube while making the songs to prove the songs for Mythic was ours. :)


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