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Pelikano 01-17-2009 12:44 PM

The next PRA
 
Well, since our old PRA (Deophite) is Manager now, who will be the next PRA :o?


I personally would choose Frankie.

Discuss :o

TSAdmin 01-17-2009 02:09 PM

I can't see this thread going very far. When Deophite got Manager, was Squirt not appointed Deophite's old position of PR/GP Admin already?

Pelikano 01-17-2009 02:24 PM

Nope.
When Deophite got PRA, Squirt got GP Admin.

Well, maybe Squirt will get PRA.. mh

Nataxo 01-17-2009 07:31 PM

I think Gabriel should have the PRA.

deathbarrier99 01-17-2009 07:54 PM

PRA is worthless.

Shadow5596321 01-17-2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathbarrier99 (Post 1457740)
pra is worthless.

qft

ArushenP2P 01-17-2009 10:14 PM

Great to see some changes. :]

Crow 01-17-2009 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1457736)
I think Gabriel should have the PRA.

Rofl.

Nataxo 01-17-2009 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1457783)
Rofl.

Whats so funny? He has been admin for longer than Squirt =/

Crow 01-17-2009 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1457784)
Whats so funny? He has been admin for longer than Squirt =/

He is a FAQ Admin, and I still don't like him.

Vulcan 01-17-2009 11:11 PM

PRA and Dev Admin were positions created to fill what a manager should be doing when the PWA was overseeing Era. They are not necessarily positions that have to be filled, especially PRA.

Deophite18 01-18-2009 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vulcan (Post 1457792)
PRA and Dev Admin were positions created to fill what a manager should be doing when the PWA was overseeing Era. They are not necessarily positions that have to be filled, especially PRA.

Correct. As of right now I don't see the need for a new PRA. I'm going to continue doing it unless I feel one needs to be appointed. Which is unlikely.

DarkRenji 01-18-2009 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1457786)
He is a FAQ Admin, and I still don't like him.

So if you dont like him, he doesnt get it? Even if he can do the job better then others?

Crow 01-18-2009 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkRenji (Post 1457828)
So if you dont like him, he doesnt get it? Even if he can do the job better then others?

I guess my two points went shopping. My first point was, he is a FAQ Admin, which means he is not suited for the PR Admin position, since PRA has to have GP experience (or so I think). Second point was that I don't like how he behaves and acts, or whatever (can't find any better verbs).
I suck at wording, sorry.

CharlieM 01-18-2009 03:37 AM

He has GP experience he's a cadet right now. Also I have seen him do GP work on other servers, pretty good in my opinion

Frankie 01-18-2009 04:14 AM

if I was to be anything I'd be the dev admin. I'm not going to run player related issues like a little pansy *****. I want the big job.

hypothetically of course. I don't really want the job.

TSAdmin 01-18-2009 04:27 AM

I know Deophite has already made his mindset on this topic known, but just for the others of you here: To be practical, I don't see how having a GP Admin AND PR Admin as two separate jobs is in any way logical when they pretty much handle the exact same audience with the same issues - The players. It's the exact same position however you name it (Houdinis "Player Services Admin", the "Player Relations Admin" or the "Graal Police Admin").

But as mentioned, Deophite has already passed his judgement on the situation.

DarkRenji 01-18-2009 04:48 AM

I always look at Player relations as GP and FAQ combined

Pelikano 01-18-2009 11:43 AM

Gpfaq

LordSquirt 01-18-2009 04:31 PM

I find the FAQ department pretty much useless right now. I never see anyone FAQ's on, so I always get a ton of FAQ PMs. Also, i'm not the only one. The other GP's also state this. FAQ's are hiring pretty much weekly now also. Someone told me they are hiring once again now when they just hired like a week ago.

[email protected] 01-18-2009 06:24 PM

Nataxo

Shadow5596321 01-18-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 1458004)
Nataxo

Nataxo? Please to god tell me your talking about the FAQ hirings...

Sinkler 01-18-2009 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1457967)
I find the FAQ department pretty much useless right now. I never see anyone FAQ's on, so I always get a ton of FAQ PMs. Also, i'm not the only one. The other GP's also state this. FAQ's are hiring pretty much weekly now also. Someone told me they are hiring once again now when they just hired like a week ago.

The problem is I have received many complaints about my current FAQ.
So I decided that this is going to be the final recruitment until a few months.
They WILL become active and I will make sure they do.

Andre2006 01-18-2009 09:44 PM

Gabriel you should of hired me while you had the chance ^^ things would be different, but now It's to late D:

DKH89 01-18-2009 10:22 PM

yeah frankie, while we at it lets bring back nuada mavrick and icarus =p
lol x.x

Crow 01-18-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DKH89 (Post 1458079)
yeah frankie, while we at it lets bring back nuada mavrick and icarus =p
lol x.x

Agreed. At least they always had some helpful input.

Frankie 01-19-2009 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DKH89 (Post 1458079)
yeah frankie, while we at it lets bring back nuada mavrick and icarus =p
lol x.x

I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

DKH89 01-19-2009 04:05 AM

Dont get me wrong i like u frankie but that whole team was worthless, nothing but abuse and 0 real work being done unless it was for themselves

CharlieM 01-19-2009 03:54 PM

Mav released some buisnesses well he was an admin...

Crow 01-19-2009 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DKH89 (Post 1458154)
Dont get me wrong i like u frankie but that whole team was worthless, nothing but abuse and 0 real work being done unless it was for themselves

It's quite obvious you were not on the team back then.

Pelikano 01-19-2009 04:53 PM

We have a freaking TRIAL FAQ, omg.

xJenn 01-20-2009 12:20 AM

Icarus' team was full of abuse, but they had ideas and a direction. I personally don't see the direction at the moment for this current era. That's just my opinion though.

DazJenova 01-20-2009 02:41 AM

Nah Icarus was a lazy ass and did nothing so he was useless, EC abused his stuff to **** and Nuada lost interest allthough he did do a good job at gang admin.

DazJenova 01-20-2009 02:41 AM

Also Frankie you get lazy in time and lose interest.

Frankie 01-20-2009 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DKH89
Dont get me wrong i like u frankie but that whole team was worthless, nothing but abuse and 0 real work being done unless it was for themselves

honestly I don't even remember the staff line up back then so I can't make a comment on that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DazJenova
Also Frankie you get lazy in time and lose interest.

who doesn't?

the ironic thing is, when I was actually really willing to work my ass off for the server I got dirt kicked in my face. heh

Frankie 01-20-2009 03:43 AM

I don't get it

DuBsTeRmAn 01-20-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xJenn (Post 1458323)
Icarus' team was full of abuse, but they had ideas and a direction. I personally don't see the direction at the moment for this current era. That's just my opinion though.


Weren't you also is him team? :)

Crow 01-20-2009 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1458364)
Nah Icarus was a lazy ass and did nothing so he was useless, EC abused his stuff to **** and Nuada lost interest allthough he did do a good job at gang admin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1458365)
Also Frankie you get lazy in time and lose interest.

Lazy? No. Awesome ideas and plans, we even had some dicussion meetings arraned if I recall correctly.
And: everybody loses interest over time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1458443)
Weren't you also is him team? :)

Learn to english.

DazJenova 01-20-2009 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1458448)
Lazy? No. Awesome ideas and plans, we even had some dicussion meetings arraned if I recall correctly.
And: everybody loses interest over time.



Learn to english.

Yes lazy, maybe's not when Icarus had it frankie was quite active but when he was working for me he got lazy and coudn't be bothered anymore. I have to say though frankie did work his ass off when i first hired him but when Icarus got a hold of him he changed and started to become lazy like icarus.

Yocas 01-20-2009 04:55 PM

It's easy to loose interest when you're not getting paid. This entire deal is pretty much a volunteer service. Why care when you're not getting any benefits out of it? You can spend years learning how to "g_script" but in the end where will that take you? Definitely not one of the top leading games of today.

But then again, didn't most games start off free and non-beneficial for the producers? And didn't they eventually turn their game into a success and make a profit out of it? It's all about determination when you look at it. Graal is like the only game I've played where staff quit because of petty situations such as "i'm notg being appreciated enuff" or "all dis work and no promoshun?! i quit". Seriously guys, get over it. No game starts off easy.

P.S: and if you try to bring up my case, I HAVE COLLEGE TO DEAL WITH.


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