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PaperMario 12-11-2008 01:25 AM

My Suggestions for a Better Zone.
 
Hey guys, it's Hato, :D.

Now that I have returned to Zone as both a player and staff, I thought of a few things that I think need improving or could be added to Zone which I put into a fancy bulleted list.

NEW IDEAS
  • Achievements: Oh my, do I ever love these. Achievements are a big part of what keeps me playing my games, such as *COUGH* Left 4 Dead *COUGH*. If Zone were to have achievements, I think it would be fun trying to attain them all. For earning an achievement, you could give a certain money reward. For example...

    Achievement Name: Stop the Slaughter!
    Description: Kill 10 enemies without dying.
    Reward: 500$.

    If you think about the achievements you could have on Zone, I could come up with AT LEAST 100. Along with the community, we could probably gather up even more. There could also be an in-game checklist that you yourself can view, and other players can view as well. Harder achievements would give more money. Or you could always copy Microsoft and have points. :3.

IMPROVEMENTS
  • New Gun Sounds: My oh my, I think we desperately need some new gun sounds. No offense, but I can't stand the sound of my appirces, as they sound silenced and just annoying. Same with the magnums, the current sound just sounds silenced (Which is silly, considering none of our weapons are). Also, we should try and have more unique sounds for the guns, considering quite a few of them use the same sound file.
  • Reload Button: When I left Graal, I played FPS....a lot. Of course, I love the reload button. Not having it on Zone, is an inevitable pain in the ass. I hate having to put away my weapon and draw it back out, or shoot my whole entire clip to reload. I think it'd be pretty simple to add a reload button, wouldn't it?


ACHIEVEMENT IDEAS

Want to submit an achievement idea to be added to this list? Just post it in this thread.

Format Example: Achievement Name: Stop the Slaughter!
Description: Kill 10 enemies without dying.
Reward: 500$.
Submitted by: PaperMario

Achievement Name: Stop the Slaughter!
Description: Kill 10 enemies without dying.
Reward: 500$.
Submitted by: PaperMario

Achievement Name: Getting There
Description: Reach the rank of Corporal.
Reward: 250$.
Submitted by: PaperMario

Achievement Name: So close, Yet so far
Description: Reach the rank of General.
Reward: 500$.
Submitted by: PaperMario

Achievement Name: Legendary
Description: Reach the rank of Legend.
Reward: 1000$.
Submitted by: PaperMario

Achievement Name: Better Luck Next Time!
Description: In a spar, kill an enemy with less than 10 hp remaining.
Reward: 150$.
Submitted by: Knightmare1

doyouskate 12-11-2008 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PaperMario (Post 1448521)
Achievement Name: Stop the Slaughter!
Description: Kill 10 enemies without dying.
Reward: 500$.

I like that idea just not 500$, people would be rich.

Quote:

When I left Graal, I played FPS....a lot. Of course, I love the reload button. Not having it on Zone, is an inevitable pain in the ass. I hate having to put away my weapon and draw it back out, or shoot my whole entire clip to reload. I think it'd be pretty simple to add a reload button, wouldn't it?
I don't see a reason to have a reload button, it reloads automatically at end of clip. Unless, you have OCD where you need to have like a certain number of bullets it's fine lol.

Nataxo 12-11-2008 01:36 AM

totally agree on that we need more achivments

xAzerothx 12-11-2008 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doyouskate (Post 1448525)
I like that idea just not 500$, people would be rich.



I don't see a reason to have a reload button, it reloads automatically at end of clip. Unless, you have OCD where you need to have like a certain number of bullets it's fine lol.

You only unlock the achievement once. Meaning you would only get $500 once...

Nefir 12-11-2008 01:39 AM

I think those are great ideas, epecially achievements. I'm tired of having to fight the same players, over and over and over again. Getting killed by the same ones too -.-.
If it's accepted, I would be glad to help you :)

jkool666 12-11-2008 01:43 AM

I like all of these. Especailly the reload button. Some new sounds would make me actually turn the sound on...

doyouskate 12-11-2008 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1448527)
You only unlock the achievement once. Meaning you would only get $500 once...

oh i c

DustyPorViva 12-11-2008 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doyouskate (Post 1448525)
I don't see a reason to have a reload button, it reloads automatically at end of clip. Unless, you have OCD where you need to have like a certain number of bullets it's fine lol.

Strategy. When you're playing in an FPS, you reload when the fighting has calmed down... it gives you the ability to save a full clip for combat, instead of running out in the middle of a fight and having to reload... just because you went into the fight with 5 bullets in your clip.

doyouskate 12-11-2008 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1448534)
Strategy. When you're playing in an FPS, you reload when the fighting has calmed down... it gives you the ability to save a full clip for combat, instead of running out in the middle of a fight and having to reload... just because you went into the fight with 5 bullets in your clip.

Ya I know that, but this is Zone. It takes about half a second to reload.

DustyPorViva 12-11-2008 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doyouskate (Post 1448535)
Ya I know that, but this is Zone. It takes about half a second to reload.

And half a second isn't important?

RebelArbiter 12-11-2008 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1448534)
Strategy. When you're playing in an FPS, you reload when the fighting has calmed down... it gives you the ability to save a full clip for combat, instead of running out in the middle of a fight and having to reload... just because you went into the fight with 5 bullets in your clip.

Zone doesn't play like a FPS tho, and the only time you really need to prematurely reload is after a battle when taking the time to put away and redraw your gun won't result in death. However if there was a slight reduction in reload time if you reload before your clip is empty then it could be worthwhile.

doyouskate 12-11-2008 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1448536)
And half a second isn't important?

Not really in Zone, there isn't as much action going on to where it would be necessary.

CharlieM 12-11-2008 02:35 AM

A reload button would be cool and easy to do, I agree with the achivements also, kinda like xbox gamerpoints..

Nefir 12-11-2008 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doyouskate (Post 1448538)
Not really in Zone, there isn't as much action going on to where it would be necessary.

I can guarantee you I lost many times in events because I couldn't recharge in a good moment, and a finishing hit always would always end in a reload... Well, not just events, but I mean, I would have been able to get rid of some quite challenging person, but the recharge just made it's worse agian...

Devis 12-11-2008 08:40 AM

ye i like them, Especailly the new sounds

RevolutionJS 12-11-2008 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doyouskate (Post 1448538)
Not really in Zone, there isn't as much action going on to where it would be necessary.

In a spar a reload is neccesary.
I always count my and my oponent shots to see when they got to reload..

Bracca 12-11-2008 10:22 AM

i like yours

i wast thinking something more like
Missions. every other game i have played has something u need 2 do such as
- be on the winning team 10 times on iciria for some zone money. (will go from 10 to like 50 more and 100 more so on)
- win # spar's for some zone money. (goes up same as last one)
- capture # bases one iciria form zone money. (goes up same way)
- capture enemy flag on wild cross # times for zone money. (goes up same way)
(so on)
- kill someone who is using photon # times for zone money.
- kill someone who is using enhanced pulsar # times for zone money.
(so on)
- capture # bases one iciria + kill someone using photon # times = some p2p cloths or something like that.

nothing like get 100 kills with (weapon). Try to do something to get people to actually play and not just try and get more kills.

allot of scripting so idk if this would ever happen.

before someones says something about trials you need to be p2p to do some of the missions.

Knightmare1 12-11-2008 02:41 PM

Achievement - Better luck next time
Description - In a spar, kill an enimie with less then 10 HP left.
Reward - $150 Zone-Money

RevolutionJS 12-11-2008 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bracca (Post 1448629)

allot of scripting so idk if this would ever happen.
.

It wont.
There already made up very much good ideas but as long there arnt hired any more Staffs it will never come.

pico57 12-11-2008 05:11 PM

that would be cool if the micro phone could work too...

lol

Minomato 12-11-2008 09:16 PM

Achievement- Comandeer
Reward- $100
Description- Stun an enemy vehicle by any means, then take it if they leave it in an attempt to escape.

(Counter-Mech maybe, if you kill the pilot with his own mech.)

doyouskate 12-11-2008 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS (Post 1448622)
In a spar a reload is neccesary.
I always count my and my oponent shots to see when they got to reload..

I get what you're saying, but why does it matter if you reload when you have 5 shots left rather then with 2 shots left. It's still gonna reload. I would rather get more shots in with less reloads than to be reloading when i still have like 4 shots left.

DustyPorViva 12-11-2008 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doyouskate (Post 1448752)
I get what you're saying, but why does it matter if you reload when you have 5 shots left rather then with 2 shots left. It's still gonna reload. I would rather get more shots in with less reloads than to be reloading when i still have like 4 shots left.

Because you get to reload on your terms. Reloading is always a very welcome addition into any game with guns... I don't understand why you're so against the idea.

RevolutionJS 12-11-2008 10:06 PM

You can start with a full clip
Reloading can be your dead so try to escape it as much as possible.

doyouskate 12-11-2008 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1448754)
Because you get to reload on your terms. Reloading is always a very welcome addition into any game with guns... I don't understand why you're so against the idea.

Not really against it. Just don't see why it bothered him so much because it was never there before.

xFuture 12-11-2008 10:25 PM

Or maybe also, When you reach a bounty of 500 you recieve $500, When you get 1000 you recieve $1000 etc etc

RevolutionJS 12-11-2008 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xFuture (Post 1448762)
Or maybe also, When you reach a bounty of 500 you recieve $500, When you get 1000 you recieve $1000 etc etc

No.

Minomato 12-12-2008 01:58 AM

Guys, reloading isn't a big deal.

Besides, just hit the hotkey again or press a and re-equip the weapon. It's basically reloading, because it refreshes your clip.

DarkRenji 12-12-2008 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doyouskate (Post 1448538)
Not really in Zone, there isn't as much action going on to where it would be necessary.

When you walk out of the tele and start getting lamed by 5 people, I think that it would be.

Knightmare1 12-12-2008 03:04 AM

Aceivment - May the force be with you
Description - On Zone Wars, win a battle only using a plasmasabre
Reward - White Plasmasabre

Nefir 12-12-2008 03:35 AM

Uhh, well, yeah, we can reload with a, but at LEAST show how much bullets are left before reload?

xAzerothx 12-12-2008 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nefir (Post 1448837)
Uhh, well, yeah, we can reload with a, but at LEAST show how much bullets are left before reload?

It takes simple math skills to determine how many bullets you have left. You shouldn't be allowed to play Zone if you do not understand what 10 - x equals.

jkool666 12-12-2008 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1448850)
It takes simple math skills to determine how many bullets you have left. You shouldn't be allowed to play Zone if you do not understand what 10 - x equals.

To a degree it takes math. You could be not keeping track of how many shots you've fired, in which case you would have no idea how many shots you had left.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS (Post 1448622)
In a spar a reload is neccesary.
I always count my and my oponent shots to see when they got to reload..

I'd like to see you count how many chaingun or SMG rounds you've fired if you use automatic fire.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minomato (Post 1448826)
Besides, just hit the hotkey again or press a and re-equip the weapon. It's basically reloading, because it refreshes your clip.

Hotkey - Not every player can hotkey.
Hitting A and Re-Taking out weapon - I ALWAYS do this, and it works fine, except you're forced to put your gun away. Takeing out a weapon causes you to freeze for a longer period of time then reloading would. When your getting in an intense fight freezetime really comes into play.

A reload button, hotkey'd to the "F" key would be very nice.

RevolutionJS 12-12-2008 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1448915)
I'd like to see you count how many chaingun or SMG rounds you've fired if you use automatic fire.
.

For Chaingun ill dont count the bullets but I still know when I got to reload, I think its expierence.
For SMG the same story.

xAzerothx 12-12-2008 08:20 PM

Chaingun approximately fires 100 to 120 bullets per reload. It's been awhile since I played but I know it's around there somewhere. Still if you have 1000 max bullets, you hold S and it now says you have 954 bullets left. You should be able to understand how many bullets you have fired.

46.

jkool666 12-12-2008 10:29 PM

Doing the math doesn't really work, during a spar. Hotkey'ng Reload to F Key doesn't seem to difficult.

Nefir 12-12-2008 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1448850)
It takes simple math skills to determine how many bullets you have left. You shouldn't be allowed to play Zone if you do not understand what 10 - x equals.

Yes, but remember I might have pressed A to store my weapon and the clip restarts, thus making it dificult to keep the count on it. Oh, and if the weapon recharges after 16 shots but you dual wield, it comes to 8 shots, and I mean, 1000, 992, 984 and going down, at, say, 568, it's not easy to know your next recharge unless you know all of 8's multiples (Not sure on this in enlglish :P )

Minomato 12-14-2008 04:29 PM

I think this whole "reloading" thing is splitting hairs, now. It's more like an unintentional "anti-laming doohicky" (Say wha?). Ever notice that the photon needs to reload more (about after 10 shots) than the other plasma rifles? This situation doesn't really work for energy weapons like the enhanced pulsar (which I may add, was failed to be nerfed,) but I don't think it's a big enough deal to stress so much. (Also, who ever heard of reloading dual pistols under 2 seconds? You'd need a third arm or something to pull that off.)


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