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Sinkler 11-23-2008 03:20 AM

Hey Era!
 
I was bored and decided to look through old posts from early 2006.
When I read them, I started finding something interesting: There was excitement.
It's a new Era to them, exciting, awesome, new things, Etrician, Magic Bush etc...

But One year later, hopes were broken.

What happened?
Era had a vibe to make people excited and happy.

Era lost that some where between now and 2006.

As a FAQ Admin for Era, and as a loyal player since Early 2002, I want this old Era Back.

What I do know is that: Mange and Sales and their team are working harder than anyone since this dev. drought. I am not kissing their ass if it seem though, but in all seriousness, I think Era's development has improved more in this last month than in the past year or two.

I think that us as players should come up with more suggestion, ideas, and things to do and perhaps we can make them come alive.
I think we can fix gangs, businesses, and many other things and make Era better.

But we need your help!

Please post any suggestion, and keep it positive.
I ask no one flame this forum, I want to hear YOUR opinions, YOUR wants.

Thanks,
Gabriel

knightfire35 11-23-2008 04:04 AM

This has been tried many times, it probably won't happen. Everyone wants the old Era back. I wouldn't even mind the Era if it wasn't for the constant lag. 3 of Era's best staff left within the last few weeks, so I'm not sure what can be done at this point.

Understood 11-23-2008 05:08 AM

If old era was so "great", it wouldn't be in the state it is now.

kia345 11-23-2008 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Understood (Post 1444198)
If old era was so "great", it wouldn't be in the state it is now.

If old X was so "great", it wouldn't be in the state it is now

Feel free to replace 'X' with anything, because it applies to anything.

Graal in general, for example.

Nataxo 11-23-2008 08:22 AM

make a couple of buildings as departments. and concentrate them in a place to make it look "newyorkly" =P

basically thats all i ask for ;)

OH AND ERA NEWSPAPER >:]

DuBsTeRmAn 11-23-2008 12:06 PM

You could start with the Newspaper and appartments. The good old shiny mall is already back :D

Darklux 11-23-2008 01:52 PM

I think important could be that all scripts are tested by special staff members responsible for this.

Like this the past 100 million resets could have been prevented.

Sinkler 11-23-2008 05:33 PM

I like the department idea, I've brought this idea up before, but back in Old Era, there was ACTUALLY a little more Role-Play and a lot less, I get a gun I kill you.

Nataxo 11-23-2008 05:39 PM

hmmm.... can u explain the "role-playing" at era... :D

srry am so nooby at this kind of stuff xD

Sinkler 11-23-2008 05:41 PM

Basically: More like acting on Era, gangs actually having themes, hell, Era Mafia was a fun RPing gang like 5 years ago with Zalle.

Nataxo 11-23-2008 06:20 PM

:cool:

Shadow5596321 11-23-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1444244)
You could start with the Newspaper and appartments. The good old shiny mall is already back :D

You don't even know 2006 Era.

Freudian_slip 11-23-2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Understood (Post 1444198)
If old era was so "great", it wouldn't be in the state it is now.

No offense, but that makes little to no sense D:
What happened is we had a few managers try to improve on a good thing in the worst possible ways and changing Era completely for the worse. You can thank NingNong for giving it to Jenn, mostly.

Understood 11-23-2008 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Freudian_slip (Post 1444357)
No offense, but that makes little to no sense D:
What happened is we had a few managers try to improve on a good thing in the worst possible ways and changing Era completely for the worse. You can thank NingNong for giving it to Jenn, mostly.

It makes perfect sense.

Sinkler 11-23-2008 11:45 PM

I actually like that there are two admins: Dev and PR, it'll benefit Era in both ways.

Freudian_slip 11-24-2008 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Understood (Post 1444360)
It makes perfect sense.

No, it really doesn't lol
Someone tried to improve on something good and ruined it and made it crappy. I don't expect you to understand because you didn't play then. Old Era was good and I'm hpopeing you guys bring back the old aspects of it with a few new things with it.

Change is good, but not all change. It did not change for the better.

Understood 11-24-2008 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freudian_slip (Post 1444403)
No, it really doesn't lol
Someone tried to improve on something good and ruined it and made it crappy. I don't expect you to understand because you didn't play then. Old Era was good and I'm hpopeing you guys bring back the old aspects of it with a few new things with it.

Change is good, but not all change. It did not change for the better.

So because your opinion is different, mine doesn't make sense? I fail to understand how you're failing to understand what I said.

Freudian_slip 11-24-2008 06:45 AM

You are saying that if Old Era was so great, ti wouldn't have been changed, but thats horrible logic. People try to improve on even perfection and can screw things entirely up.

Theres a lot of new things I like about New Era that Old Era didn't have such as certain events and GFX's, but those improvements over the years don't even closely add up to waht Era use to be before Jenn pissed all over it.

Codein 11-24-2008 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freudian_slip (Post 1444461)
You are saying that if Old Era was so great, ti wouldn't have been changed, but thats horrible logic. People try to improve on even perfection and can screw things entirely up.

Theres a lot of new things I like about New Era that Old Era didn't have such as certain events and GFX's, but those improvements over the years don't even closely add up to waht Era use to be before Jenn pissed all over it.

Era has never been perfect though and always has had room for improvement.

Shotoo2 11-24-2008 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freudian_slip (Post 1444461)
Theres a lot of new things I like about New Era that Old Era didn't have such as certain events and GFX's, but those improvements over the years don't even closely add up to waht Era use to be before Jenn pissed all over it.

Jenn was an excellent developer, but she took Era in the wrong direction. She couldn't trust people, so she tried to make gangs and businesses automated. She also didn't hire any developers aside from Andrew to help her out because she was afraid of abuse. She actually managed to create an Era that ran pretty much like clockwork with very little human oversight, but when she lost interest in Graal, she didn't quit. She held onto the manager position and went inactive. We never got new updates after that point, and things started to break without staff to repair them, because Andrew had very limited rights. In short, she wasn't a bad developer, but her paranoia led Era to the situation it ended up in after she was replaced.

Freudian_slip 11-24-2008 03:30 PM

She added a few things that were neat, sure. But she also added Serverside PK to bullets...
That for me and a lot of PKers killed Era.

Shotoo2 11-24-2008 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freudian_slip (Post 1444487)
She added a few things that were neat, sure. But she also added Serverside PK to bullets...
That for me and a lot of PKers killed Era.

Unfortunately, serverside pking was an inevitability. Stefan pushed serverside on major servers as a security issue, so it was going to happen eventually, whether Jenn did it or not. You can't really lay the blame for that solely on her shoulders.

I know I'm defending Jenn, which is kind of unpopular to do since most people remember her as public enemy #1, but I don't think she deserves as much crap as people give her. I worked with her during her stint as manager and spoke with her often. She wasn't the evil and menacing figure that people have made her out to be over time.

TheJames 11-24-2008 04:44 PM

I think the management on Era is doing a fine job. I havn't been this pleased with Era for a while. The gangs are balanced. There arnt a bunch of wealthy business owners running around blowing the economy up with unbalanced things. The only thing I could see to change would be the amount of money players make off mining/flower picking. I see beginner players log on and pm me as a FAQ as how to make money. I really can't tell them to go mine or pick flowers considering it'd take untill the "reset" to make enough money to purchase the average priced gun. A decent gun goes between 50k-350k. Not to mention the weapons that are up into the millions. Aside from the unbalanced economy I think Era is headed in the right direction. The whole thing with Jenn is the same conspiracy as Mrs. Hillary Clinton trying to be president. Ya digg?

Sinkler 11-26-2008 04:47 PM

Don't make fun of Hillary, I'll slap you silly.

eagle4 11-26-2008 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shotoo2 (Post 1444491)
She wasn't the evil and menacing figure that people have made her out to be over time.

And yet she blames the players because Era fell to the bottom of the playerlist?

Motherat 12-08-2008 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1444227)
make a couple of buildings as departments. and concentrate them in a place to make it look "newyorkly" =P

basically thats all i ask for ;)

OH AND ERA NEWSPAPER >:]

everyone has dreams, i don't really want to get all "communist" about Era but everyone has ideas and some people don't see by them
like for instance, you can think adding new things will satisfy your needs in Era... then a couple of months later it will get very old
when i started off there was always excitement i don't know if it was because i was new or not, but i think it was because i was new
im not going to recommend anything , i just hope that we get a better community because our community is **** right now with all the scamming
- motherat

Frankie 12-08-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shotoo2 (Post 1444491)
Unfortunately, serverside pking was an inevitability. Stefan pushed serverside on major servers as a security issue, so it was going to happen eventually, whether Jenn did it or not. You can't really lay the blame for that solely on her shoulders.

I know I'm defending Jenn, which is kind of unpopular to do since most people remember her as public enemy #1, but I don't think she deserves as much crap as people give her. I worked with her during her stint as manager and spoke with her often. She wasn't the evil and menacing figure that people have made her out to be over time.

just like the gmap.
making era's map a gmap screwed with pking a little bit, along with adding a bunch of lag. stefan pretty much forced it upon the server.

CharlieM 12-09-2008 05:41 AM

Sales did you play in 2006 I'm just wondering because I can't remember..I think the direction its going in now sounds good hopefully it gets finished, but Era needs to quit switching developers and managers thats what ruins it really imo..oh and bugs and glitches...and resets..


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