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Ryukuh_PK 08-03-2008 10:15 AM

playercount
 
it kinda sucks man

Crono 08-03-2008 03:08 PM

It's sucked for a while now.

Demisis_P2P 08-03-2008 03:45 PM

I know what'll attract players! Maybe Graal should start only accepting Euros and effectively increase their prices for half the playerbase.

Crono 08-03-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1411085)
I know what'll attract players! Maybe Graal should start only accepting Euros and effectively increase their prices for half the playerbase.

BRLLNT!caps

excaliber7388 08-03-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1411085)
I know what'll attract players! Maybe Graal should start only accepting Euros and effectively increase their prices for half the playerbase.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4...xt30110gk8.gif

You, sir, are some kind of genius.

cbk1994 08-03-2008 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1411085)
I know what'll attract players! Maybe Graal should start only accepting Euros and effectively increase their prices for half the playerbase.

Don't forget to make players buy gelats, not subscriptions.

Cow2001 08-03-2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1411085)
I know what'll attract players! Maybe Graal should start only accepting Euros and effectively increase their prices for half the playerbase.

half?

Ryukuh_PK 08-03-2008 06:11 PM

im tryin to get my friends to play this game but they dont seem to give a ****

wut can be done about the playercount

excaliber7388 08-03-2008 06:33 PM

Better content.

DrakilorP2P 08-03-2008 07:45 PM

Graal is broken, everyone hates it and here's how to fix it:
  • Make it 3D. 2D is primitive and obsolete.
  • Implement a leveling system with skills and talents.
  • Implement raids and instances.
  • Implement MGS style sneaking/stealth.
  • Quests, quests, quests, quests.
  • Make it intense with a deep storyline like HL2.

The last thing that needs to be done is to replace all current staff because I hold personal grudges against them and therefore hate them.

cbk1994 08-03-2008 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DrakilorP2P (Post 1411118)
Graal is broken, everyone hates it and here's how to fix it:
  • Make it 3D. 2D is primitive and obsolete.
  • Implement a leveling system with skills and talents.
  • Implement raids and instances.
  • Implement MGS style sneaking/stealth.
  • Quests, quests, quests, quests.
  • Make it intense with a deep storyline like HL2.

The last thing that needs to be done is to replace all current staff because I hold personal grudges against them and therefore hate them.

I hope you're kidding x_x

Crono1508 08-03-2008 08:13 PM

If GraalOnline decided to be 3D only, I probably wouldn't play anymore.

Honestly, Graal has been 2D all the way.

excaliber7388 08-03-2008 08:18 PM

Yeah part of it's charm is that it's 2d. But there are a few changes that could be made.

Mark Sir Link 08-03-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1411105)
half?

I guess he's assuming half of Graal's playerbase are in the United States or Canada

Cow2001 08-03-2008 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link (Post 1411132)
I guess he's assuming half of Graal's playerbase are in the United States or Canada

it still doesn't make any sense

cbk1994 08-03-2008 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1411137)
it still doesn't make any sense

For people who use Euros as their currency, it is slightly cheaper than before.

Cow2001 08-03-2008 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1411140)
For people who use Euros as their currency, it is slightly cheaper than before.

how come?

cbk1994 08-03-2008 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1411141)
how come?

They were losing money because the United States Dollar isn't worth crap. Now, the players who pay have to make up for the dollar sucking, not them.

Which is going to make a lot of people not reupgrade or even upgrade in the first place.

excaliber7388 08-03-2008 09:41 PM

Its not their fault our dollar sucks :(

Cow2001 08-03-2008 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1411142)
They were losing money because the United States Dollar isn't worth crap. Now, the players who pay have to make up for the dollar sucking, not them.

but doesnt it affect europeans in the same way?
they had to pay less euros when it was based on the dollar

cbk1994 08-03-2008 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1411144)
but doesnt it affect europeans in the same way?
they had to pay less euros when it was based on the dollar

No, because they are charging euros now, so they can afford to lower the price.

Cow2001 08-03-2008 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1411147)
No, because they are charging euros now, so they can afford to lower the price.

k let me ask in a different way.
how much did it cost earlier for americans and europeans, and how much does it cost now?

cbk1994 08-03-2008 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1411149)
k let me ask in a different way.
how much did it cost earlier for americans and europeans, and how much does it cost now?

Gold bundle used to be $48 USD (a year). Now it's around $55-$60.

Not sure about euros.

Also, you can't just buy a playerworlds package, so I've also got to pay for a zone subscription, a kingdoms subscription, and a classic subscription when I upgrade.

Mark Sir Link 08-04-2008 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1411140)
For people who use Euros as their currency, it is slightly cheaper than before.

no, it's more expensive. Since the number amount has remained the same but they are now charging Euros, Europeans and Americans are both paying alot more than they used to

cbk1994 08-04-2008 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link (Post 1411217)
no, it's more expensive. Since the number amount has remained the same but they are now charging Euros, Europeans and Americans are both paying alot more than they used to

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1396895)
it's less expensive for european people who bought gold bundle

Quote:

we now bind prices to euro (which increases prices by 55 percent), and give you gold bundle in exchange. Also you get the starter packs and a much more flexible subscription system.
Original thread ..

Cow2001 08-04-2008 11:08 AM

so the price is now the same for everyone, instead of discriminating to europeans, I don't see the problem

cbk1994 08-04-2008 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1411263)
so the price is now the same for everyone, instead of discriminating to europeans, I don't see the problem

It costs much more for us. Regardless of "fair", it costs too much, and people can't afford to upgrade.

Cow2001 08-04-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1411313)
It costs much more for us. Regardless of "fair", it costs too much, and people can't afford to upgrade.

if they could have handled a even higher cost, I'm sure you can handle the current one.
the united states isn't a third world country

Frankie 08-04-2008 07:57 PM

I don't understand how it's less for Europeans.

If an account was 20 dollars, Europeans are paying 13 euros.
With the new system, an account would be 20 euros instead of 20 dollars, so now Europeans are paying 7 euros more than they were, and Americans are paying about 11 dollars more.

cbk1994 08-04-2008 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1411320)
if they could have handled a even higher cost, I'm sure you can handle the current one.
the united states isn't a third world country

I can afford, but there are others who can't. I'm not complaining, I'm answering your questions.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1411336)
I don't understand how it's less for Europeans.

If an account was 20 dollars, Europeans are paying 13 euros.
With the new system, an account would be 20 euros instead of 20 dollars, so now Europeans are paying 7 euros more than they were, and Americans are paying about 11 dollars more.

They weren't using the exchange rates to calculate how many euros it used to cost.

xAzerothx 08-05-2008 12:09 AM

Forums are free, I have no reason to upgrade now.

Baszle 08-05-2008 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1411421)
Forums are free, I have no reason to upgrade now.

You'd spend 50$ to talk on forums?

DustyPorViva 08-05-2008 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Baszle (Post 1411459)
You'd spend 50$ to talk on forums?

Lots of people spend $50 just to talk on the game. At least this way you don't gotta download a client.

xAzerothx 08-05-2008 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Baszle (Post 1411459)
You'd spend 50$ to talk on forums?

I don't play the game itself anymore. I just like seeing people on the forums go "grrrrrrrrrrrr i h8 u."

excaliber7388 08-05-2008 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1411421)
Forums are free, I have no reason to upgrade now.

Unless you ever want to change your email. So yeah, if you don't want to get emails from anti unix anymore, because CJ's security sucks, you're **** out of luck. I was told I couldn't change my name, or have my info transfered over to another account (or have my name changed). Essentially, a classic account is treated like a trial account, who has cheated their way into getting access to saving their progress on classic servers.

xAzerothx 08-05-2008 04:52 AM

I do not use the email I use for graal anyways.

excaliber7388 08-05-2008 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1411488)
I do not use the email I use for graal anyways.

Same.
Which is part of the reason I wanted it switched.
Maybe if I had a gold account, or if someone got one for me, I could get my name, email, etc, changed. :[

cbk1994 08-05-2008 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1411485)
saving their progress on classic servers.

Everyone can save on Classic servers now (and even UC/gold servers). Observer mode is the new reason to upgrade. It's way better than the old trial system. [/sarcasm]

excaliber7388 08-05-2008 06:26 AM

w/e

DustyPorViva 08-05-2008 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1411511)
Everyone can save on Classic servers now (and even UC/gold servers). Observer mode is the new reason to upgrade. It's way better than the old trial system. [/sarcasm]

Oh... phew, you saved yourself with a sarcasm tag there. I was ready to post some obscenities and such.


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