Graal Kingdoms
 

Ok, I am getting sick and tired of this. I seriously and honestly want an answer from either Unixmad (Stephane Portha) or Stefan (Stefan Knorr). What is going on with Graal Kingdoms and Graal Online in general? I feel that we pay not only for the game, but info on the game also. Is there anything being done about NOTHING happening on GK or even Graal Online itself. Maybe we could try advertisements or SOMETHING. Unixmad, I know you have enough brains to not let ANOTHER one of your game's fail, because one already did and you had to shut it down (FairyLand).

Seriously, I am sick and tired of not knowing a damn thing because people are to damn lazy. Do you even have a team working for Graal anymore? If you are continuing to go to EuroCenter, what are you doing there if Graal and all your other game's are failing. I am not trying to be mean here or anything, but what the hell are you doing? Updates or no? New staff member's or no? Do you even know what is going on anymore?

Wow finally someone who made a post like this, lets just wait for an awnser

I can tell you the only reply's I will get are Close notices, and maybe a few people that do go on and off the server, because unixmad and Stefan does not reply to ANY topics, unless they pertain to the client, not the server's.

Actually, threads like this can usually last pretty long, you just need to better organize your point. Even if you're going to pointlessly repeat the same thing that's been stated before, the thread can get big as long as it's better organized. None of this really matters since it doesn't produce results, but I suppose another long-thread about how GK is dying would only help, and not hurt the cause.

They last ages. But the people they're directed to never even look at them. Hell, I've linked Stefan to threads in question (flying tech anyone?), and he's never looked, or at least never responsed.

All the evidence we need to prove to Unix you can't keep milking Graal for all it's worth and expecting a steady flow of bread. Send us back to where we were pre-v5, kill off gelats, rework subscriptions to lower prices/less options. Up front it will look like a bad move, but compare, what, 5 new all-access accounts a month, to the 20, cheaper gold accounts a month + people willing to reupgrade.

I know I'd have upgraded a few of my accounts by now if they were still at their old prices.

I don't think there will be much done with GK, at least from my personal experience trying to help it.


As far as "we pay we should know" that's a bad argument - and one which will work against you; I find the ownership is more often petty than mature so demands don't work well.

However I do feel the following argument is accurate and effective:
This is a small community, and those of us who wish to help it want to know the news and direction Graal will be heading in both the immediate and distant future. We feel it is in everyone best interest to maintain a healthy community and share the business long/short term goals so we may collectively work for the benefit of the game.

Ultimately throwing a fit and pointing fingers won't accomplish anything - this is, after all, about progress... not criticism.

Well, it royally pisses me and alot of other players off, because they do NOTHING to one of the greatest server's made on Graal. Of course there are server's like Era and Valikorlia, but nothing like Graal Kingdoms. This server is so great, that it once had around 200 people, and everything was blooming. Stefan, dont you just wish that your server had that just one little spark again, just that one little thing that when you mean people at conventions, they ask what you do and you can proudly say "I run a server for the game Graal, and it has the highest player count of all the server's."

Do you enjoy blowing us off, do you enjoy pising people off that care about this. Maybe you dont give a ****, or care for that matter, but we do, us players, the ones that make all this possable. The people that pay to play this game, just so we can enjoy sitting around and relaxing, while feeling like a different person in-game.

Can you atleast type one letter in this topic? ATLEAST, for all the people that have tried to support you, or do you really not care anymore. Do you really just wanna see Graal and Graal kingdoms fall to its ultimate death?

This is rediculous. I even applied to become a FAQ because I know so much about Graal Kingdom's, but there is not a big enough player account to even say "Yeah, I think he would be good for this server", because NOBODY plays anymore.

When I first started playing again, now that it s death, I told myself "This is going to be one of the hardest game's I have played now, because NOBODY is on, and I cant buy ANYTHING, since nobody has anything anymore." I am still playing, hoping that one of your 2 people (Stephane Portha or Stefan Knorr) would get there head out of there ass and reply to something...

Atleast say SOMETHING...even a letter, so I know you have read this...

Stefan doesn't look through the Graal Kingdoms forums.

I, personally, would say something like, "I scripted the entire game of Graal, including an advanced scripting language".

Why did you throw their real names in there? Who cares?

"Graal Administration, I know who you are!"

He's calling them out, it sounds more demanding.

[girlyvoice]Oh hes SOO demanding![/girlyvoice]

I dunno, I'd like to hear whats going on too. ^^

P.S. yes, yes, I'm back, you all can stop dancing now and get back to work. ;)

@spiker: instead of complaining on the forums where we all have seen the rise and fall of topics like this without a blink from gk admin/high staff (bjorn) why not take the initiative and do something about it.

dev...bug stefan..bug bjorn.

I think we all been there, done that before. ;)

I have even went to the length to try and call him, but my phone company doesnt allow anything out of the states, haha.

Anyways, I just really dont want to see graal kingdoms to go down. It is an amazing server, and we seriously need new stuff.

I really honestly think the leveling system is wack. I was thinking about this lastnight in bed while I was just laying there since I wasnt tired, and I know why our leveling system is effed up. Its because it takes us so little time to do it, and you can just do it OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Like lords, lords are pretty simple to get to, and they are WAY to easy to kill, plus they respawn. Why not make monsters that you can kill that have HUGE amounts of exp, but they dont respawn but every 2 days or so...then it will make the player accually work and play more...

I actually read most of the forum threads. We have some plans but just presenting parts of them on the forums doesn't make sense because they usually get argued to death. The state of the server is currently not simple because it's too complex to be managed by players, it's too complex to add new interesting stuff without messing up existing things. There needs to be some change to that before we can seriously improve things.

Bjorn is doing such an amazing job, right?


Hell, just give someone like Tig Bjorn's access for about a month and look at the results

gk bores me
although there was 16 people on today
so i logged on, there was events
i actually, sort of, had fun.. well the lag somewhat ruined it

This is true. However, the reason that it's true is because pretty much nobody, not even developers, can look at the server's scripts.

Well the problem is that Graal Kingdoms currently still has a community, but as soon, as this community is dead, any attempts for revival will fail, so I think its quite important that it happens somewhat quick :(!

Not releasing us the new plans? It doesn't matter if it gets argued to death, obviously, by the result of "Gelats" no one wanted those, and you never listened to us, I suggest you do announce your plans, and then LISTEN to our thoughts!

"The customer is always right"

It's ridiculous that he can't even say "I do have good plans for GK, and in time, will release updates that will make GK very fun"

I would actually believe him :(

Okay.... I personally have erected many a thread about how bjorn should be removed etc etc.

But Stefan, I understand that maybe you feel like you have other things that are possibly more important than particularly Graal Kingdoms, but to be honest probably about 70-85 PERCENT of your player base came from people playing GK and Classic and about 50 PERCENT of those people have left because of the lack of updates or anything new to GK. The history of updates for Graal Kingdoms has been so sparse and pathetic that the most recent thing we got is a new noob island and before that the newest thing was the release of brutal maps and Event Island, that was around 3 years ago!!! If you have to change some of the existing things then so be it, if we have to revamp the way that people level or have to reset accounts to all start at level one again so that we can attain a new leveling system or new monsters or whatever then yeah, itll suck that we have to start over again, but do you realize that it will attract MANY more people old and new alike to playing the game again?

You need monsters that drop items, not items that are recycled from 4 years ago when they were released? I owned the first pair of Gloves of the Serpent on GK and there is still only one pair around in the possession of Cyan. The new players cant get any items to sustain themselves because theres so many items lost on old accounts of dead from being destroyed by past players that we almost literally have turned into a Socialist server where theres a huge gap between the Rich and the Poor in terms of items and everything, and thats not good, that means that after a couple days the new players get sick and tired of not being able to improve at all because theres 10 players with all the items, but if we had a system SOMEWHAT related to Zodiac where the drop rates are rediculously low but there are still a circulation and creation of new items to support the influx of players. Also there should be items such as extremely rare items such as a Ghost Amulet or a Belt of the Raging Dragon that there should only exist a few and be given out in special events or whatnot, and that will also keep certain things rare and in short supply, but also supply the new players with the things they need to be able to actually play. We need new dungeons, hell I say we need an entirely new island the size of GK that has new monsters like the Orges and the Spiders and whatnot that have already been started and enver finished or some of the things that Tig has hidden away on his desktop that will add content and entice people to come back! I can sit here and give you idea and idea Stefan but until you actually let someone else take charge of GK so that things can begin happening and not the damn dictator Bjorn whom lately hasnt even been seen AT ALL, then no it doesnt matter what you have planned or what anyone has planned because it either never gets approved by Bjorn which I have dozens of forum PMs where youve approved stuff to be made and then bjorn just says no and it all instantly halts right there no matter what. You need to let someone else manage GK because at the moment there isnt even anyone who can do anything.Tig and Stephen have been developing stuff forever (mostly Tig) and almost none of it has been implemented. Why not? because bjorn doesnt let anything new come to GK and then you unfortunately do nothing about it. Stefan you and I have had talks about getting Forest Kingdom items made and you said thatd be a great idea and approved it, then bjorn turned around and just straight up said no, no reasoning, just said he didnt think it was fair and didnt like the idea.

Stefan Ive played GK since 2002 when I began playing Classic WAYYYY back in the day and then I came back a year later and fell in love with GK. Gk got up into the hundreds in population and it was a daily community of 70-80 at the least. That was great and beautiful not only for you and your profits and money, but for the people. You NEED to hire people to develope for GK, you NEED to remove Bjorn and give the management to someone who WANTS and has a PASSION to help GK! And yes Tig has had one incident where something happened that he did wrong, but hell who hasnt? He has the drive, the skill, the passion, and the DESIRE to make GK amazing! GIVE HIM A CHANCE!!! Let him hire people who will help GK grow into something amazing! You support Zone and stuff so help support GK by helping us!!! Get people from other servers to help develop! Come on Stefan, you dont even have to do any of the work, just let Tig and Stephen and others develop and update GK and let them hire people who will help it, and honestly GK cant get any worse than it already is right now so take a chance on someone who wants to make GK better instead of sitting with someone like Bjorn who isnt doing **** and hasnt even been around almost at all for months. Seriously... please listen to us? We've made you money for years and years, this is a Democracy, a business has to listen to its customers if it wants to survive... and to be honest Graal is dieing because we havent and arent being listened to.... please listen.

Wow, that was said pretty damn well enough...

Anyways, Stefan, why dont you listen to us. We understand you feel like we are attacking you, but we arnt in the slightest. We just want to be able to have our game back. Can you blame us for wanting to play the game we used to all play and enjoy, but now we cant. We just want out game back to normal, and we just want things to work out. What are you seriously going to loose. You never really did answer our questions.
Why wont you let Tig and Stephan work on this server? They have and still do work on TONS of other server's, and they do nothing wrong, but help it...Please, give them a chance. We just want our game back to normal Stefan, thats all we want...

What people need to start doing is flooding stefan with pm's with suggestion/bug fixes etc

kthxbai

We have already done that, it doesnt work...

You think I don't do that all ready? His reply to me linking to him the locked flying technology thread was "???".


That marks the first time either him or Bjorn responded to me, not counting the time I asked Sam to get Bjorn's attention.