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Robin 05-06-2008 09:39 PM

Application: Robin
 
Who?

My name is Robin, as my account suggests, I'm 21, Male, A freelance web developer, and I live in Cardiff, which is the capital of Wales.
As a freelance web developer, I work from home on contract based projects.
I was a member of the Global Scripting Team, worked with the finest scripters on Graal, and was able to help some of the best servers ever made.

I play Graal, because it's fun! Why else would anyone play a game?

I partake in the development because it fulfills my need to create, due to the expression released when creating scripts, and the community is strong, if a little too serious sometimes :)

Experience

I have worked as a great many things in my life, most of them involving full time or part time customer service jobs. I love working with people and solving problems.

During my job, I have the opportunity to work with clients around the world, often times having no contact other than instant messaging, this bestows upon me the unique ability to work with others tremendously well, especially online.

I've worked on too many servers to list as various positions and once I became GST it was part of my job to help every server that needed it. I worked well with the other GST and a few are still my good friends.

Why I stand out

I'm confident, I'm larger than life, and I'm never afraid to point out when anyone is wrong, and always there to back someone up when they are right. I have the ability to use contractions in my every day language ;)

Seriously though, I'd rather believe that anyone has a shot at this, and it shouldn't matter whether you shine out or not. If you're competent and trustworthy, that should be enough, whether or not the candidate is going to excel or not depends entirely on them.

Education

My education consists of the usual basics, and although I have taken computer science courses in my educational career, I've not really learned more than I already know. I took it upon myself to learn programming languages from a very young age, improving my knowledge by myself.

I'm self employed, and part of that means that I get to spend all day / night online, which can be good or bad depending on how you look at it. I will always be available to help in Graal-related matters whenever I'm awake (AIM on the cellphone people!) :)

Policies
  • RC / Script Security is too lax.
  • A certain level of script sanity and efficiency should be endorsed by the GST
    • Glaringly obvious mistakes in player systems should be addressed
    • Graal Script 2 should now be default for new playerworlds
    • The GST need the ability/rights to accommodate these responsibilities
  • Graphics should be per-playerworld, if they are not part of the default files, and these rules should be enforced.

Judgement

I have been through a lot in my life, and I have a fair amount of character flaws, lack of judgement is not one of them. I'm approachable and I'm the guy you come to, when things need sorting. It's up to you if you want to take my advice.

Thanks

Thanks for reading, considering, putting me in the short list, worshiping, salivating, getting aroused, whatever you take from this :P

Chompy 05-06-2008 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin (Post 1389307)
  • A certain level of script sanity and efficiency should be endorsed by the GST
    • Glaringly obvious mistakes in player systems should be addressed

What do you mean by this?

Elizabeth 05-06-2008 10:17 PM

i always thought you were female.
well since you came back to the forums, i thought you were.
robin for pwa

Robin 05-06-2008 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1389314)
What do you mean by this?

Stats which aren't affected properly in custom battle systems.
Conflicting movement systems, etc.
Conflicting variable names, conflicts in general.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1389315)
i always thought you were female.
well since you came back to the forums, i thought you were.
robin for pwa

I am indeed a guy. Robyn is how you spell the female version where I come from :P
Thanks :)

Nabru 05-06-2008 11:17 PM

Urban supports r0bin for PWA.

Robin 05-07-2008 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabru (Post 1389319)
Urban supports r0bin for PWA.

R0bin <3ies Urban

Nabru 05-07-2008 12:50 AM

Ain't gotta tell me baby I know it! - Bender

cbk1994 05-07-2008 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin (Post 1389307)
  • RC / Script Security is too lax.
  • A certain level of script sanity and efficiency should be endorsed by the GST
    • Glaringly obvious mistakes in player systems should be addressed
    • Graal Script 2 should now be default for new playerworlds
    • The GST need the ability/rights to accommodate these responsibilities
  • Graphics should be per-playerworld, if they are not part of the default files, and these rules should be enforced.
p to you if you want to take my advice.

Those don't really stand out.

The first one is way too general, the second is, in my opinion, a bad change. The third is something I believe should not be forced, if you pay for the server, you should be able to script however you want.

That GS2 should be default (4th) is just common sense; nothing unique. The fifth is obvious of course, and the graphics thing is already there, just needs to be enforced, which literally anyone can do.

I recommend telling more about unique things that you can do that others cannot.

Robin 05-07-2008 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkbud (Post 1389330)
Those don't really stand out.

The first one is way too general, the second is, in my opinion, a bad change. The third is something I believe should not be forced, if you pay for the server, you should be able to script however you want.

That GS2 should be default (4th) is just common sense; nothing unique. The fifth is obvious of course, and the graphics thing is already there, just needs to be enforced, which literally anyone can do.

I recommend telling more about unique things that you can do that others cannot.

There were some things myself and Skyld were discussing in order to better the current (and I'm sorry to say, poor) state that some playerworlds have seem to fallen into, whether or not they are unique or not, they are important points, and whether or not you agree with them or not is beside the issue.

These are policies I personally feel need to be changed, or reviewed. Will I get my own way? Probably not. Will the best for everyone come out of it? I certainly hope so.

I see you posting around these forums enough to see you have a pretty pessimistic view on everything. May I ask why you feel the need to ignore every other point I made, casually cast off some very important points, seemingly to feed your own sense of self-righteousness when you have made NO valid points yourself?

You make this point:
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkbud (Post 1389330)
The third is something I believe should not be forced, if you pay for the server, you should be able to script however you want.

You are paying for the privilege to have a Graal server under your control. Nothing more. If you expect to see your server on the hosted or classic list, you will be expected to produce something of quality. If I were a player, logging on to the first time to something that was buggy, made my computer run slow with the game and looked horrible, I wouldn't renew my subscription. That's a loss for Graal. The more that happens the less players there will be.

Take your pessimism somewhere else Chris. It is not needed when it comes to discussing the policies of Graal.

cbk1994 05-07-2008 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin (Post 1389382)
There were some things myself and Skyld were discussing in order to better the current (and I'm sorry to say, poor) state that some playerworlds have seem to fallen into, whether or not they are unique or not, they are important points, and whether or not you agree with them or not is beside the issue.

Hardly beside the issue, as hopefully some players will have a partial say in who becomes a PWA. However, I did not mean to say that I necessarily disagreed with everything you posted; merely that you some of your points are common sense.
Quote:

I see you posting around these forums enough to see you have a pretty pessimistic view on everything. May I ask why you feel the need to ignore every other point I made, casually cast off some very important points, seemingly to feed your own sense of self-righteousness when you have made NO valid points yourself?
I apologize; I did not mean to come across in a bad way. Your application looks very nice, I was simply pointing out some things that I thought needed perhaps to be revised.

Quote:

You are paying for the privilege to have a Graal server under your control. Nothing more. If you expect to see your server on the hosted or classic list, you will be expected to produce something of quality. If I were a player, logging on to the first time to something that was buggy, made my computer run slow with the game and looked horrible, I wouldn't renew my subscription. That's a loss for Graal. The more that happens the less players there will be.
Yes, I agree for Classic and Hosted playerworlds, but for UC servers it should not be forced, though there should be people to help when needed.

Plus, most people after first logging in don't type some random string of letters into the white box; they double click on some server, most likely one near the top of the list.

So, like I said I think it would be okay to force some kind of rules regarding efficient scripts on public worlds (meaning on the server list), but UC servers should have their choice; I would hate for globals to come on and start deleting or fixing up my old useless scripts.
Quote:

Take your pessimism somewhere else Chris. It is not needed when it comes to discussing the policies of Graal.
I'm sorry you see me as a pessimist, there is nothing I can do to dissuade this illusion to you.

You truly don't know me well enough to know whether or not I am a pessimist, however, like I said, I did not mean for it to come across that you had a bad application; it was actually very nice. I just pointed out some things I would change.

Sorry again for the confusion ;)

pooper200000 05-07-2008 03:47 AM

I hope this isn't just me...
It sounds like you are applying to be a GST not a PWA.
Quote:

RC / Script Security is too lax.
The GST need the ability/rights to accommodate these responsibilities
RC / Script Security (Scripting)
Quote:

A certain level of script sanity and efficiency should be endorsed by the GST
Glaringly obvious mistakes in player systems should be addressed
Scripting
Quote:

Graal Script 2 should now be default for new playerworlds
I believe Stefan said that GS2 was being used on all but Valikorlia and N-Pulse. Although they could have been updated to GS2 and other UC servers could be created which were GS1. That was posted in August of 2007 though. So I think it would be logical to draw the conclusion that GS2 is now the default.

Quote:

Graphics should be per-playerworld, if they are not part of the default files, and these rules should be enforced.
This seems like the only non script related policy you posted. How do you think these rules should be enforced? How harshly? If the images are renamed that would mean that a PWA would have to check those images and files uploaded to a server almost daily. That sounds like a task that however important it may be it would take more hours than there are in a day to check.

I liked your application. You put a lot of thought into it. :)

Robin 05-07-2008 07:31 AM

I'm not applying for the GST. I believe they're content as they are, otherwise there would be more than just the three of them.

The PWA needs new ideas, and a kick in the right direction for those not so unique ideas ;)

HoudiniMan 05-07-2008 10:00 AM

Your "welcome back" thread is still at the top of the Hello/Goodbye forum... Talk about slamming it into 5th gear x_x

Skyld 05-07-2008 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan (Post 1389435)
Your "welcome back" thread is still at the top of the Hello/Goodbye forum... Talk about slamming it into 5th gear x_x

Shows willing and determination, I guess.

Robin 05-07-2008 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyld (Post 1389438)
Shows willing and determination, I guess.

Or it shows I was a bit infamous and people are shocked I'm back :P

I'm not sure why but I've always warmed to people here, even people who are a bit pushy or threatening to begin with always turn out to be good people at their core.

Nabru 05-07-2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin (Post 1389454)
Or it shows I was a bit infamous and people are shocked I'm back :P

Mostly that.

Robin 05-07-2008 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabru (Post 1389464)
Mostly that.

Hey where's the <3? :P

Nabru 05-07-2008 05:58 PM

In this post:http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...19&postcount=5
and this one: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...29&postcount=7

:p

DeveloperXY 05-07-2008 06:22 PM

DeveloperXY, past name (Xloria), supports Robin for PWA.

He has displayed great potential whilst on his term during graal online's operation and I am honored to backup his application with the utmost support.

Sky 05-08-2008 12:16 AM

<3 r0bin fer pwa, plx

xXziroXx 05-09-2008 04:46 PM

I do not believe Robin is fit for PWA, mainly because of his ego - thinking he's superior to everyone (as he posted himself) is hardly a good trait for a PWA, as well of his subtle way of bashing people (I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't realize he's doing it).

blazeingonix 05-09-2008 04:47 PM

But this guy came back to graal after how many time out?

Robin 05-09-2008 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1389827)
I do not believe Robin is fit for PWA, mainly because of his ego - thinking he's superior to everyone (as he posted himself) is hardly a good trait for a PWA, as well of his subtle way of bashing people (I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't realize he's doing it).

I know it's hard to detect subtle tone in text, but surely anyone out of highschool english knows when sarcasm is being represented in text. If you had said I was unfit to be someone who in their position must communicate clearly and concisely in a obviously informal situation, then yes, I would have to agree with you.

However, if I want to get my point across, I will get it across. If this makes me come off as superior, I don't care. If my point is made, I leave it.

I tried to help you, and not only did you refuse my help, (which happened to only be two sets of copy/pasted answers from google, no sarcastic undertows nor subtle bashing here!) but you then slammed me, not only in the original thread, but in this one too.

I'm not superior, but it would be unfair of you to claim that I'm acting superior when you're the one who is asking myself, and everyone else who reads this forum for help.

And whilst I may be egotistical, at least I am not as egotistical as some people, mentioning no names.

xXziroXx 05-09-2008 05:19 PM

When you tried to help me, you completely ignored that I made it very obvious that I know how to do what I requested help for, just that it wasn't working - which I found very ignorant and annoying.

My opinion of you acting superior and whatnot had nothing to do with that thread (despite you agreeing with it in it, sarcasm or no sacrasm) mainly comes from reading your posts in other threads.

I'm not trying to pick a quarrel with you, despite that it might look like it, I'm merely trying to share my thoughts about you to the community, as I would with anyone no matter its it for good or bad.

Who knows, it it shows someone how they truly act and they change from it, it'd be good. No?

Robin 05-09-2008 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1389831)
When you tried to help me, you completely ignored that I made it very obvious that I know how to do what I requested help for, just that it wasn't working - which I found very ignorant and annoying.

I tend to find that when people try something they think they know, and it doesn't work, it mainly fails for two reasons:
  1. They didn't know how to do it properly in the first place
  2. There is another reason unforeseeable that is stopping the action from occouring
  3. They are using Windows Vista

Do not mistake my operating system elitism as ignorance. It is merely arrogance, which I concede is a bad trait.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1389831)
My opinion of you acting superior and whatnot had nothing to do with that thread (despite you agreeing with it in it, sarcasm or no sacrasm) mainly comes from reading your posts in other threads.

When it comes to some things, some people are superior to others, I tend to stay out of threads where I have no idea what's going on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1389831)
I'm not trying to pick a quarrel with you, despite that it might look like it, I'm merely trying to share my thoughts about you to the community, as I would with anyone no matter its it for good or bad.

I didn't think you were, but if you have a problem with me, it's best to come and talk to me face to face. If you continue to 'share your thoughts about me to the community', it would no doubt just make you look like a gossip, who does not resolve his issues!

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1389831)
Who knows, it it shows someone how they truly act and they change from it, it'd be good. No?

I know how I truly act, and I also know how I used to act four years ago, and honestly, this is a big improvement, and as far as changing who I am to conform with you, I doubt I'm going to do that.

Change however, is not always a good thing.

Nabru 05-09-2008 06:21 PM

Question to xXziroXx:

How is Robin's apparent elitism any different from say...Houdiniman?

Chompy 05-09-2008 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabru (Post 1389841)
How is Robin's apparent elitism any different from say...Houdiniman?

HoudiniMan isn't on that much compared to Robin. Or is he? ;o

Tigairius 05-09-2008 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabru (Post 1389841)
Question to xXziroXx:

How is Robin's apparent elitism any different from say...Houdiniman?

That's easy, Houdiniman isn't an elitist (not implying that Robin is, because he's not).

Robin 05-09-2008 06:46 PM

I'm an elitist in that I use Mac OS X *gets ready for the bad rep torrent*, but I'm also not one since I use Parallels to virtualize Windows XP often.

Nabru 05-09-2008 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1389843)
That's easy, Houdiniman isn't an elitist (not implying that Robin is, because he's not).

I think a fair amount of the staff from Bravo during MD's management period would really disagree with you about Houdini. I digress, he's not the reason we're in this thread.

Robin for PWA!

Robin 05-09-2008 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabru (Post 1389849)
I think a fair amount of the staff from Bravo during MD's management period would really disagree with you about Houdini. I digress, he's not the reason we're in this thread.

Robin for PWA!

I was there.

The horror! The horror!

Inverness 05-10-2008 12:59 AM

I wouldn't support you for PWA, simply because the addeventlistener() thread is my first impression of you and that impression is not very good since you don't seem to understand the simple concept of consistency in code and seem to be only focused on yourself and what you want.

Robin 05-10-2008 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1389925)
I wouldn't support you for PWA, simply because the addeventlistener() thread is my first impression of you

Your first impression of me? Why Inverness, you knew me four years ago, and you had no qualms about sucking up to me when I was on the Global Scripting Team. Why don't you remind everyone of that? Let me guess, you don't remember ^_^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1389925)
and that impression is not very good since you don't seem to understand the simple concept of consistency in code and seem to be only focused on yourself and what you want.

Why, how is consistency in code a simple concept to understand? Perhaps to us scripters, but not to anyone else.

I'm not only focused on what I want, although obviously it's something I am focused on.

On code consistency, I believe in the consistency in all scripting languages, and of all scripting languages. Making Graal more compatible will make more scripters want to develop and play Graal. You don't seem to understand that closing off the scripting language will just make it an elitist niche, allowing only the bravest to come and try it out.

My thread, merely threatens change, and you're unwilling to accept that there are other ways to do things. Refer to that thread if you want to see more of my idea, if not, stop talking about it.

Does this thread matter? I suppose probably not in the end; I tend to find that becoming global has always been about who you are friends with, and who you know, and the second you choose not to be friends with someone at the top, is the second you are thrown out.

Although I see that the two people objecting to my becoming a PWA are Scripters, and both people who may feel threatened by my return. Why? I don't know. I'm not trying to threaten anyone, and I'm not even trying to become GST again, although I have already proved to myself how able I am at scripting, even though I was scared I would not be able to master it again what with GScript2 being completely new to me, and yet I have managed to create some very good scripts in a very short time.

I honestly believe Tig has more of a shot at being a PWA than I am, even with his past, so coming onto this thread and trying to act the tough guy you know you aren't and trying to hurt my feelings? Impossible.

I have a lot of patience, and this was definitely not so four or so years ago, a lot has changed. I have changed. I'm not going to be so forthrightly attacked by you, or by Ziro.

If either of you two have a problem, my AIM is [email protected] and it's also my email. If you're not brave enough to IM me, then hit me up an email. You obviously have something against me.

If you don't, and you truly believe I am incapable of understanding a simple concept such as you suggest, then have fun in your imaginary world. It's great, it revolves around you, and you can take what people say, and completely ignore it. I find that if people don't like what I'm saying, that's what they do, so please continue, because good lord, I would never try and stop someone from living their life, the way they choose.

I have focus, and I have drive, and I am at least willing to help, and often go out of my way to do so, so tell me, am I not fit to do the duties of the PWA?

Tell me why.

xXziroXx 05-10-2008 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin (Post 1389942)
Although I see that the two people objecting to my becoming a PWA are Scripters, and both people who may feel threatened by my return.

Why would I feel threatened by you, or anyone else, when all I do is work on my own playerworld with no other desire (besides joining the PWA team)? I was merely posting my opinion about you, which is why the hirings are made public, not bashing you.

Robin 05-10-2008 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1389954)
Why would I feel threatened by you, or anyone else, when all I do is work on my own playerworld with no other desire (besides joining the PWA team)? I was merely posting my opinion about you, which is why the hirings are made public, not bashing you.

Then fair enough :)

TSAdmin 05-10-2008 03:05 AM

I don't support Robin for this position, having seen how he handles himself, and others, in certain situations, such as this and the feud with xXziroXx.

In perspective: If I had a problem on a server, I'd prefer help from another PWA, should Robin rock up on my servers proverbial doorstep, so as to avoid the obvoiusly unavoidable conflict one can get into with him.

Robin 05-10-2008 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1389958)
I don't support Robin for this position, having seen how he handles himself, and others, in certain situations, such as this and the feud with xXziroXx.

In perspective: If I had a problem on a server, I'd prefer help from another PWA, should Robin rock up on my servers proverbial doorstep, so as to avoid the obvoiusly unavoidable conflict one can get into with him.

Next scripter to not back me? :D

cbk1994 05-10-2008 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin (Post 1389846)
I'm an elitist in that I use Mac OS X *gets ready for the bad rep torrent*, but I'm also not one since I use Parallels to virtualize Windows XP often.

And people tell me that it's people like me who give Macs a bad name :rolleyes:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin (Post 1389960)
Next scripter to not back me? :D

Probably because you are always getting into fights with scripters, putting people down for what they cannot control, and insisting that we should stop what we are doing and rewrite all our code so that it complies with your ECMAScript standards.

I agree, you seem only to care about what Robin wants with scripting.

TSAdmin 05-10-2008 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin (Post 1389960)
Next scripter to not back me? :D

I'm not a scripter. My opinion comes from observing your posts, and how you've handled yourself and others when push came to shove, and this is how I saw your approach toward those issues. I'm not sure where this would have gone had I have said that I was a scripter, but something tells me (going by what I've seen) it would not have been a happy dance in the park.

Robin 05-10-2008 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1389997)
I'm not a scripter. My opinion comes from observing your posts, and how you've handled yourself and others when push came to shove, and this is how I saw your approach toward those issues. I'm not sure where this would have gone had I have said that I was a scripter, but something tells me (going by what I've seen) it would not have been a happy dance in the park.

You misjudge me sir ;)


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