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ViperZakuto 09-08-2007 12:13 AM

Blinding
 
how come blinding no longer lowers wc? It used to work pretty well. I tested this out and when it said i ewas blinded nothing happened to any of my stats.

Blinding used to lower wc... why did it quit working?

MasterNuke 09-08-2007 12:22 AM

It doesn't change your WC directly. It's an invisible modifier that is in the hit chance calculation.

ViperZakuto 09-08-2007 12:31 AM

well when fro had the TG, he used it on me and it lowered my wc. now it does nothing but stop people from reading...

MasterNuke 09-08-2007 12:53 AM

Did fr0 poison you too?

ViperZakuto 09-08-2007 12:59 AM

well it said I was blinded not poisoned. If i would have been poisoned it would have affeted speed and eveeything else... not just wc.

MasterNuke 09-08-2007 01:02 AM

*shrug* Maybe it's just another one of those things that just broke down over time.

ViperZakuto 09-08-2007 01:04 AM

hopefully they didn't change it =/ I switched to dianchect for the blinding. then they make it useless, or it broke one of the two. so i switched back to gov and lost 6 lvls in wisdom =/

splatxp 09-26-2007 05:20 AM

The best part about that attacktype is that there is a scroll of cure blindness.

sage_scooby 09-26-2007 06:15 PM

I've been Dian for a long time now, blinding hasn't had much if any effect on any of my targets.

I just wouldn't mind if someone wanted to look into this and check what blinding indeed does.

cyan3 09-26-2007 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sage_scooby (Post 1349651)
I just wouldn't mind if someone wanted to look into this and check what blinding indeed does.

I will check on kingdoms debug later to see if Blinding does any effect.

ViperZakuto 09-30-2007 08:50 PM

I already tested it in the spar, and it does nothing to your stats... I heard it stops you from wirting and reading scrolls... thats pretty pointless.

ViperZakuto 06-01-2009 10:33 AM

is this ever going to be looked at, or is blinding going to be useless still? or is this already changed?

Craigus 06-01-2009 10:57 AM

I don't agree blinding is useless, i think it's fine as it is.

ViperZakuto 06-01-2009 11:07 AM

ok could you tell me exactly what it does?

Craigus 06-01-2009 11:47 AM

Makes you unable to read

kia345 06-01-2009 02:27 PM

I always heard blinding lowered wc as well, but I've never used one in pvp. Any word on that?

ViperZakuto 06-02-2009 07:04 AM

I did test it. I know when fro tested his Tainted Grace on me it lowered my WC when i was blinded. I tested a dianchect weapon a few months back, when I switched. and it just stops you from reading... which can be useful sometimes... but why did they change it?

MajinDragon 06-02-2009 04:23 PM

I don't know what really happened to blinding, it used to be pretty pro when it lowered wc, those high ac loving players would blind you and you'd be defenceless if you werent pretty high in phys already, like in the 70-80+ region. I think it was seen as too strong as it often decided peoples fate, like poison still does !pissed!

ViperZakuto 06-02-2009 04:35 PM

that's crappy though. instead of limiting blinding. Why not add other weapons that limit other stuff??? Have one that lowers just AC. Have one that lowers JUST speed, and so on and so forth.

ViperZakuto 05-26-2011 12:03 AM

Tig: fix for Dianchect please
 
While tig is updating dianchect... he should fix blinding, so that it actually does something useful. As of now, correct me if i'm wrong, it only stops you from reading/writing. if it did something useful in PvP or PvE Dianchect would be used a lot more.

cbk1994 05-26-2011 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperZakuto (Post 1651513)
While tig is updating dianchect... he should fix blinding, so that it actually does something useful. As of now, correct me if i'm wrong, it only stops you from reading/writing. if it did something useful in PvP or PvE Dianchect would be used a lot more.

Preventing reading can be useful in PvP by preventing the enemy from using scrolls (restoration, etc.)

ViperZakuto 05-28-2011 02:16 AM

eh kinda... but would you prefer ogma or dianchect? so it's kinda useless in PVP.

Tigairius 05-28-2011 09:04 AM

Well, as Ed said, blinding is an invisible modifier. However, I've made it tremendously more effective. I've also added a screen effect. In addition, you cannot use potions or manna leaves anymore while you're blinded.

Seeya 05-28-2011 09:57 AM

incredible work on the effect for blind, it fits it perfectly. A really great update again Tig.

Craigus 05-28-2011 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1651795)
Well, as Ed said, blinding is an invisible modifier. However, I've made it tremendously more effective. I've also added a screen effect. In addition, you cannot use potions or manna leaves anymore while you're blinded.

Ive not tried this ingame yet but it sounds AWESOME thanks tig

Felix_Xenophobe 05-28-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craigus (Post 1651810)
Ive not tried this ingame yet but it sounds AWESOME thanks tig

gotta check it to believe ur eyes

dat pun

Craigus 05-28-2011 11:56 AM

Yeah ok after checking it i think this is awful i really hate the new blinding the effect is pure annoying.

cyan3 05-28-2011 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craigus (Post 1651824)
Yeah ok after checking it i think this is awful i really hate the new blinding the effect is pure annoying.

I think that's kinda the whole point of the effect.

Seeya 05-28-2011 12:11 PM

the effect isn't that bad, the total blackout is harsh, but theres a few reasons it's unfair

Mages don't have any way to blind, but warriors have a solid way to keep us blinded permanently. This isn't balanced, they can use tons of heals and just keep owning us while we're blind (which isn't a huge problem, I can navigate while I'm blind but I can't leaf).. it's fair for a simple 1v1 but we need a way to also blind the enemy so they can't leaf either.

Make mana spells blind. Simple enough, they use a ton of mana... if people think that's OP all warriors have to do is slash a sword normally to blind us consistently.

Crow 05-28-2011 12:14 PM

I'd like to see a screenshot of this blinding effect. Anyone?

MajinDragon 05-28-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1651795)
Well, as Ed said, blinding is an invisible modifier. However, I've made it tremendously more effective. I've also added a screen effect. In addition, you cannot use potions or manna leaves anymore while you're blinded.

Nice update it'll make death more sure. But there's pretty much only restrictions on leaves, scrolls and potions. What about mana crystals? Plat allowing, they grant inf mana.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1651826)
Make mana spells blind. Simple enough, they use a ton of mana... if people think that's OP all warriors have to do is slash a sword normally to blind us consistently.

It's pretty much just Brigid mages which can't blind, other mages are still able to wield weapons. A dian bow or xmas flame strike is enough to do the job.
But spells do need fixing among other things within the mage system.

ViperZakuto 05-28-2011 06:36 PM

time to switch next time i play... thank you tig =)

Cubical 05-28-2011 07:14 PM

make the prayer 'light' blind as well as sunspear

Tigairius 05-28-2011 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1651826)
the effect isn't that bad, the total blackout is harsh, but theres a few reasons it's unfair

Mages don't have any way to blind, but warriors have a solid way to keep us blinded permanently. This isn't balanced, they can use tons of heals and just keep owning us while we're blind (which isn't a huge problem, I can navigate while I'm blind but I can't leaf).. it's fair for a simple 1v1 but we need a way to also blind the enemy so they can't leaf either.

Make mana spells blind. Simple enough, they use a ton of mana... if people think that's OP all warriors have to do is slash a sword normally to blind us consistently.

I agree, however, spells are largely a part of the mudlib that I am not able to edit. I will see if there is some hackish workaround to make this happen.

Seeya 05-28-2011 09:20 PM

I'm glad you agree, anything you can do would be awesome.

MajinDragon 06-05-2011 06:53 PM

Blinding still affects a player after death and respawn. This should be fixed.


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