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xAndrewx 05-30-2007 06:35 PM

ghost freedom
 
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Well, look at the screenshot. Tiles don't load if you're a ghost.

DustyPorViva 05-30-2007 06:38 PM

Ya, makes it hard to check out UC playerworlds 'cause it usually gets you stuck like that. As well as things like NPC doors and such not working.

Crono 05-30-2007 07:16 PM

should have ghost friendly UC servers where ghosts can clientside open doors , have their tiles loaded, and stuff. :P

cbk1994 05-31-2007 01:44 AM

Maybe scripts should actually run for ghosts, but restricted to like

addtiledef
removetiledefs
say2
hide
show

and player isn't counted in allplayers variable.

Tyhm 05-31-2007 09:45 AM

Or, since whenever we bring up the discussion of newbie/ghost restrictions Stefan says "Don't worry we're working on something", ghosts should just not be restricted.

cbk1994 06-01-2007 03:17 AM

Ghosts should be deleted. They simply don't work. Make what is now ghosts into trials, unless server has disabled it in a server option.

xXziroXx 06-01-2007 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkbud (Post 1313963)
Ghosts should be deleted. They simply don't work. Make what is now ghosts into trials, unless server has disabled it in a server option.

I totally agree.

Deadly_Killer 06-01-2007 05:28 AM

Trials -> Limited to Gold -> Trial / Classic Servers -> Trial
Classic -> Limited to Classic / Private Servers -> Trial
VIP -> Limited to Classic / Hosted / Private Servers
Gold -> All Servers

DustyPorViva 06-01-2007 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadly_Killer (Post 1314009)
Trials -> Limited to Gold -> Trial / Classic Servers -> Trial
Classic -> Limited to Classic / Private Servers -> Trial
VIP -> Limited to Classic / Hosted / Private Servers
Gold -> All Servers

Not really understanding what you're trying to get at. It's a bit messy.

Deadly_Killer 06-01-2007 10:01 PM

That's how graal should be:

Trials should act as a regular player without saving.

Trial Accounts:
- Access Gold (no save)
- Access Classic (no save)
- Access Hosted (no save)

Classic Accounts:
- Access Gold (no save)
- Access Classic (save)
- Access Hosted (no save)
- Access Private Servers (no save)

Gold Accounts:
- Access All Servers (save)

VIP Accounts:
- Access Gold (no save)
- Access Classic (save)
- Access Hosted (save)
- Access Private Servers (save)

Tyhm 06-02-2007 03:03 AM

Sounds good to me.

But if I may ammend:
there should be a Trial Server so people can get a better feel for the game than they currently do. Maybe run just that server like those asian MMOs, where you have to USD all the good equipment.

Though this overstates it:
Trial Accounts:
- Access Trial (save)
- Access Gold (no save)
- Access Classic (no save)
- Access Hosted (no save)

Classic Accounts:
- Access Trial (save)
- Access Gold (no save)
- Access Classic (save)
- Access Hosted (no save)
- Access Private Servers (no save)

Gold Accounts:
- Access All Servers (save)

VIP Accounts:
- Access Trial (save)
- Access Gold (no save)
- Access Classic (save)
- Access Hosted (save)
- Access Private Servers (save)

MegaMasterX90875 06-02-2007 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyhm (Post 1314323)
Sounds good to me.

But if I may ammend:
there should be a Trial Server so people can get a better feel for the game than they currently do. Maybe run just that server like those asian MMOs, where you have to USD all the good equipment.

Though this overstates it:
Trial Accounts:
- Access Trial (save)
- Access Gold (no save)
- Access Classic (no save)
- Access Hosted (no save)

Classic Accounts:
- Access Trial (save)
- Access Gold (no save)
- Access Classic (save)
- Access Hosted (no save)
- Access Private Servers (no save)

Gold Accounts:
- Access All Servers (save)

VIP Accounts:
- Access Trial (save)
- Access Gold (no save)
- Access Classic (save)
- Access Hosted (save)
- Access Private Servers (save)

You think too much.

Deadly_Killer 06-02-2007 04:25 AM

Yeah, I was actually going to include the Trial-server just for you, but I didn't. Sorry =[

Tyhm 06-02-2007 05:19 AM

's all good. 2 schools of thought (neither of which works): If you keep saying it in every post, eventually Stefan will hear and comment, Or, If you keep your posts simple and concise, eventually Stefan will hear and comment.

Instead it's bloody well random, I never know what or when (or whether) Stefan will grace an idea with his edict of "Okay, next version/No, I don't like it."

cbk1994 06-02-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyhm (Post 1314323)
Sounds good to me.

But if I may ammend:
there should be a Trial Server so people can get a better feel for the game than they currently do. Maybe run just that server like those asian MMOs, where you have to USD all the good equipment.

Though this overstates it:
Trial Accounts:
- Access Trial (save)
- Access Gold (no save)
- Access Classic (no save)
- Access Hosted (no save)

Classic Accounts:
- Access Trial (save)
- Access Gold (no save)
- Access Classic (save)
- Access Hosted (no save)
- Access Private Servers (no save)

Gold Accounts:
- Access All Servers (save)

VIP Accounts:
- Access Trial (save)
- Access Gold (no save)
- Access Classic (save)
- Access Hosted (save)
- Access Private Servers (save)

I disagree, don't let anyone else access Trial ...

Part of the reason we lose trial accounts is because people make fun of them.

kia345 06-02-2007 06:51 PM

agree'd

Tyhm 06-02-2007 07:11 PM

Hm...it's a good point, but it would discourage people from upgrading if they had to leave Trial never to return.

Hows about Trial is cut off from future networks, such as the Global Economy when that gets going? So oldbies would be discouraged, but not forbidden, from playing alongside the newbies?

Or, we implement Classic's old Newbie Saint system so Oldbies can't bother the Newbies too much?

Or, we set up a series of one-way gates, so the only way for an Oldbie to get into the "Petting Zoo" is for one of the newbies to invite them into that room/dungeon/etc? (No, then they'll just make a newbie account to let themselves in...)

(Apologies again for the examples, I pull 'em out the air)
Maybe a Chat Request system? "Googi [Status: Bigger than you, Nice to puppies] wants to chat (y/n?)" "Sparky [Status: Bigger than you, Big dumb jerk] wants to say something (y/n?)" "Totally Not Sparky [Status: Just Started, Neutral] wants to say something (y/n?)", so they can see the person's AP and "level"(hearts and sword level) before they accept...?


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