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DustyPorViva 04-22-2007 02:56 AM

Kind of funny
 
When Kingdom's came out, how so many people praised the 3D terrain, and how so many people said they were going to make a server with 3D terrain. I just find it funny how such a major addition to Graal has yet to hit a server other than Kingdoms yet. Even in a simple form.

killerogue 04-22-2007 03:33 AM

That server Darkmoon Geovanie is doing has 3D terrain. :P

smirt362 04-22-2007 03:36 AM

I hate those 3d terrains, I think they are ugly.

DustyPorViva 04-22-2007 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerogue (Post 1301743)
That server Darkmoon Geovanie is doing has 3D terrain. :P

Ya, which was just announced I believe. How long has it been since the terrain was released? I thought at least some of the servers on classic would have found some cheap way to have a terrain, even for events or such.

xXziroXx 04-22-2007 04:11 AM

I was using 3D terrain on the last version of Utheril, and also at a stage on Mythic.

I also remember another server a long time ago using it.

DustyPorViva 04-22-2007 04:20 AM

G_yoshi's server, DK, don't remember the exact name.

Stephen 04-22-2007 04:52 AM

Archaic, the first server given permission to use the 3D terrain, fell through. :frown:

Inspiration 04-22-2007 06:26 AM

Well, as a rule of thumb, let's consider how many new and upcoming servers use the easier to work with classic terrain?

Exactly.

People can barely put together a halfway decent server using even the simplest of what's given to them.

DustyPorViva 04-22-2007 06:44 AM

How is classic terrain harder than 3d terrain? Technically... 3D terrain doesn't really take the same talent to work with as classic terrain, as there are hardly any tiles and most is automatically generated with the terrain generator. The only things that need to be managed are NPCs.

Inspiration 04-22-2007 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1301783)
How is classic terrain harder than 3d terrain? Technically... 3D terrain doesn't really take the same talent to work with as classic terrain, as there are hardly any tiles and most is automatically generated with the terrain generator. The only things that need to be managed are NPCs.

Well, I'll put it this way:

I wouldnt call Graal Kingdom's Map, Dungeons, ect, at all innovative or well thought out. They pretty much look just like that. Someone just randomly generated them and said OKAY DONE!

If anything, GK would and should be completely outdone by any other server using the same methods.

mmmmkay 04-22-2007 10:23 AM

With terrain comes the need for tons of graphics and most people can't get a graphic artist that's that good and dedicated. And yeah Graal belongs 2d in my mind :P

SayianOozaru 04-22-2007 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty
When Kingdom's came out, how so many people praised the 3D terrain, and how so many people said they were going to make a server with 3D terrain. I just find it funny how such a major addition to Graal has yet to hit a server other than Kingdoms yet. Even in a simple form.

I've seen a playerworld or 2 with 3d terrain. But your right, most worlds do not use it. Would be nice if they did though.

DustyPorViva 04-22-2007 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmmmkay (Post 1301807)
With terrain comes the need for tons of graphics and most people can't get a graphic artist that's that good and dedicated. And yeah Graal belongs 2d in my mind :P

I think it'd be a lot easier to get graphics done for a terrain-based server than classic. Classic, if needed a new tileset or graphics, would have to get theres done with pixel art. That talent isn't as spread out as there are people who can sketch and finish it up in photoshop.
And I'm not really saying I'd like to see these out, it's just surprising that I haven't seen one terrain map outside of Kingdoms, even just a small one for events, given how so many people wanted it(and I'm not talking about dev servers).

Inverness 04-23-2007 04:51 PM

The 3D terrain takes a huge amount of space on the tileset for it to look as random as it does, there is no space for extra tiles.

DustyPorViva 04-23-2007 06:27 PM

I don't understand what you're really getting at?


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