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Travesty 03-10-2007 08:16 AM

Enguard-Graal Sparring Championship
 
Probably, not too many of you have heard of this or the WGFC, which was hosted by Clops and Highlander. Anyway, it's a very large invitational spar tournament that puts Graal's best against each other. I have several ideas for how to run the tournament, and one is a very unique draft-style which, I think, can really revolutionize people's take on sparring once again. I need a host though, for a website, a host that supports PHP. I'm asking for volunteers! My AIM is Inphektid, or you can get me back here.

Devil 03-10-2007 08:51 AM

Aren't you banned on your other accounts? Nice account name btw.

Sorry if you're not, anyway, if I still played I'd be in for this, I wasn't bad back in the day.

Travesty 03-10-2007 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1287004)
Aren't you banned on your other accounts? Nice account name btw.

Sorry if you're not, anyway, if I still played I'd be in for this, I wasn't bad back in the day.

No, I'm not, so there's no reason to pollute a perfectly good topic with these blank accusations.

I'm still looking for a host!

warp2ukew 03-10-2007 11:52 PM

tthtththththallen

syltburk 03-12-2007 12:18 AM

lol dynasty

Mykel 03-12-2007 01:19 AM

Have other ways to get invited other than the big popularity fest.

Infernix 03-12-2007 01:42 AM

Best? The Best have left, Ive seen some rlly sorry lookin champions lately.

Lord Sephiroth 03-12-2007 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Infernix (Post 1287657)
Best? The Best have left, Ive seen some rlly sorry lookin champions lately.

This'll just end up being like any other major tournament, the same 5 guys as we see every week on UN or (used to)N-Pulse. All this is is slapping a fancy championship title name on any other weekly tournament that those guys spar in.

Travesty 03-13-2007 04:37 AM

Laughed a little bit reading the last 3 posts... As far as the popularity fest here goes, usually the best sparrers become pretty popular, so blame us for that. The best haven't really left, me, Halo, Squirt, and some others have been playing Uniball because we've just been bored of Graal really. I'd come back if something like this was held, so I decided to do it. Not to sound rude either, but have you even been around long enough to know sparrers better than the ones that hang around currently? I'm sure you guys live off of the 'legacies' of people like Killermech and Draxi. Feel free to bring them back any time, sparring hasn't changed, it would probably end up embarassing Graal's past, heh. And as for the '5 best guys,' is that even an arguement? It's like you're blaming good sparrers for being there, existing, and showing up to win tournaments. It's not our fault that people can't get on the level of maybe Highlander, Neo, Ares, Halo, and myself. It's a 16-man tourney, that leaves room for 9 other people. Usually, the best win.

Lord Sephiroth 03-13-2007 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Travesty (Post 1288038)
Laughed a little bit reading the last 3 posts... As far as the popularity fest here goes, usually the best sparrers become pretty popular, so blame us for that. The best haven't really left, me, Halo, Squirt, and some others have been playing Uniball because we've just been bored of Graal really. I'd come back if something like this was held, so I decided to do it. Not to sound rude either, but have you even been around long enough to know sparrers better than the ones that hang around currently? I'm sure you guys live off of the 'legacies' of people like Killermech and Draxi. Feel free to bring them back any time, sparring hasn't changed, it would probably end up embarassing Graal's past, heh. And as for the '5 best guys,' is that even an arguement? It's like you're blaming good sparrers for being there, existing, and showing up to win tournaments. It's not our fault that people can't get on the level of maybe Highlander, Neo, Ares, Halo, and myself. It's a 16-man tourney, that leaves room for 9 other people. Usually, the best win.

I wasn't making an argument, the only point I was making was that theres nothing that's going to set this tournament apart except for a little more bragging rights for guys that win every other tournament anyways.

It's basically a random server weekly tournament with bigger publicity.

Inspiration 03-13-2007 07:30 AM

Hey look, the thread has already turned into a bunch of name dropping.

Sparring was fun back when there was a sparring community, now there's just a handful of people who sit around and pat eachother on the back because they've managed to remain passionate about an aspect of this game for a long enough time to become more proficient at it than others.

Basically, what's the point? The same 3-4 people win every tourny, and one of those 3-4 will probably win this.

It's not because those few are on a "Different Level", it's just because the sparring community is basically dead.

If there was a possiblity for some unknown players to do very well in this and earn a name for themselves, yeah that would be cool.

But no one really cares if any of the people you named can win another tourny.

NeoJenova 03-13-2007 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration (Post 1288073)
It's not because those few are on a "Different Level", it's just because the sparring community is basically dead.

wtf sparring community dead?

I just hosted a 24 man spar tourney twice in a row at 2AM on UN on a monday night... ppl loved it.

how can the sparring community be dead if so many people still enjoy sparring?

EDIT: It was probably 12-1AM but still on a monday night...

James205 03-13-2007 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Travesty (Post 1288038)
Laughed a little bit reading the last 3 posts... As far as the popularity fest here goes, usually the best sparrers become pretty popular, so blame us for that. The best haven't really left, me, Halo, Squirt, and some others have been playing Uniball because we've just been bored of Graal really. I'd come back if something like this was held, so I decided to do it. Not to sound rude either, but have you even been around long enough to know sparrers better than the ones that hang around currently? I'm sure you guys live off of the 'legacies' of people like Killermech and Draxi. Feel free to bring them back any time, sparring hasn't changed, it would probably end up embarassing Graal's past, heh. And as for the '5 best guys,' is that even an arguement? It's like you're blaming good sparrers for being there, existing, and showing up to win tournaments. It's not our fault that people can't get on the level of maybe Highlander, Neo, Ares, Halo, and myself. It's a 16-man tourney, that leaves room for 9 other people. Usually, the best win.

My brother Roman was the only person in WGFC to go undefeated in the big tourneys.

foxboi 03-13-2007 04:45 PM

From Travesty:

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It's not our fault that people can't get on the level of..

It's Graal.. And don't act like your gifted..

Nothing but fancy finger movement..:asleep:

Travesty 03-13-2007 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration (Post 1288073)
Hey look, the thread has already turned into a bunch of name dropping.

Sparring was fun back when there was a sparring community, now there's just a handful of people who sit around and pat eachother on the back because they've managed to remain passionate about an aspect of this game for a long enough time to become more proficient at it than others.

Basically, what's the point? The same 3-4 people win every tourny, and one of those 3-4 will probably win this.

It's not because those few are on a "Different Level", it's just because the sparring community is basically dead.

If there was a possiblity for some unknown players to do very well in this and earn a name for themselves, yeah that would be cool.

But no one really cares if any of the people you named can win another tourny.

Did you just want a higher postcount or something? First of all, about this 'name dropping,' what's your deal with it? Nothing bad about listing Graal's best sparrers. Apparently there's 'no sparring community,' yet nearly every server has a successful weekly and/or monthly tournament, which isn't something so common in 'your' days, even though I don't know who you're assuming you've played longer than. And about this 'possibility,' that's funny. You know, the 'good' sparrers don't just tell people like you that you're good to make you feel cool or anything, we do it to people that are actually good. Squirt and Rygor for example, they are relatively new, and already pretty good. And Quick Strike, he started out hanging out in UN's town tailor, dressing up as cats and roleplaying, and now he's a good sparrer. Funny. I'm sure no one does care, no one as in the people who can't win. If I'm on the Houston Rockets and the Dallas Mavericks are in the NBA championship with the Detroit Pistons, do you you think that I really care? Hell no, because it's not me. We don't do this for you to care about, we do it because it's fun, and if we wouldn't, no one else would, because they know we'd beat them. Think, post.



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Originally Posted by foxboi (Post 1288169)
It's Graal.. And don't act like your gifted..

Nothing but fancy finger movement..:asleep:

Nothing but fancy finger movement, yet people are whining and complaining in this thread as if it's not fair because we're better than most of Graal. If it's nothing, how is there such seperation, for example, between you and Neo? If it's nothing but fancy finger movement, get good at it? It's not hard, not at all, that's why I can't understand why so many of you are bad at it. (Oh, and if someone spits out the excuse 'I don't care' or 'I don't try,' someone laugh at them for me, I can only post once per day.)

foxboi 03-13-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Travesty (Post 1288196)
Nothing but fancy finger movement, yet people are whining and complaining in this thread as if it's not fair because we're better than most of Graal. If it's nothing, how is there such seperation, for example, between you and Neo? If it's nothing but fancy finger movement, get good at it? It's not hard, not at all, that's why I can't understand why so many of you are bad at it. (Oh, and if someone spits out the excuse 'I don't care' or 'I don't try,' someone laugh at them for me, I can only post once per day.)



Thats not my point, The fact that your claiming to be on a different level is outrageous. And if someone said 'I don't care' I'd give them a high five because in my opinion I think sparring is a waste of time or maybe a past time activity.. But come on move your fingers 10x faster than someone else isn't something to brag about kid.

Inspiration 03-13-2007 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoJenova (Post 1288080)
wtf sparring community dead?

I just hosted a 24 man spar tourney twice in a row at 2AM on UN on a monday night... ppl loved it.

how can the sparring community be dead if so many people still enjoy sparring?

People will do it just for fun or casually, but the amount of people who are good at sparring, and who spar as their main focus on Graal, is nothing like it used to be. Everytime I log into UN, it's the same 5-10 people sparring.


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Originally Posted by Travesty
Did you just want a higher postcount or something...ect

First off, you're putting a lot of words in my mouth here. I never claimed to play longer than anyone, nor did I mention anywhere in my post about how long I've played, nor did I mention anything about "my" days. No idea where you got any of this from.

Secondly, the reason I accuse you of name dropping is because you came onto these forums, and started listing names of people who you think are "on a different level".

85% of this forums userbase probably arent heavy sparrers. Most won't be in, or have anything to do, with this event. In fact, besides Neo, I can't think of anyone else from your OMGELITE namelist that posts here.

Basically, all this seems like to me is someone coming on here, proclaiming themselves and people they associate with to be awesome, and announcing an event in which said people can prove their awesomeness while the rest of us not so awesome people can look on in awe, but not participate, due to lack of said awesomeness.

Lord Sephiroth 03-13-2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Travesty (Post 1288196)
Nothing but fancy finger movement, yet people are whining and complaining in this thread as if it's not fair because we're better than most of Graal.

Oh christ Inphektid get over yourself. We're not saying it's not fair we're saying it's just not attractive or important because we already know generally who's going to win.

Mog 03-15-2007 05:17 AM

i miss madrox and sammy pwns all

Inspiration 03-15-2007 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mog (Post 1288773)
i miss madrox and sammy pwns all

Is this guy some kind of troll?

Mog 03-15-2007 05:52 AM

5TFU noob, sammy pwns u

Brad 03-15-2007 05:55 AM

brad land will host the tourney

Lord Sephiroth 03-24-2007 04:59 AM

I must admit I thought this was just going to be a spar tournament where you brought in like 16 of the sparrers we always see winning tournaments but you're actually organizing a pretty large league-style gameplay I'm pretty impressed lol.

I hope this works out for you


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