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Googi 03-03-2007 10:15 PM

New battle system
 
You can use the new battle system in Bogenera arena. Speed gets nerfed big time while ac/wc are made pretty much obsolete. Bows seem to be the big winner in the new system. Swords/daggers are the big loser. It's also a little bit easier to cast fast spells (i.e. bullets) unless your opponent is using a bow.

Waltz5 03-03-2007 10:28 PM

What I gather:
1. Prepping weapons is a waste of diamonds.
2. AC, Str +, Dex +, and Dam + are basically negligible.
3. Heavy Rods are quite valuable now.
4. Screw everything else, and get 30 Con.

Draenin 03-03-2007 10:52 PM

Prepping weapons unbalanced things a lot to begin with, same for AC ratings. Take having -80 WC at level 20 as a good example.

As for heavy rods, that's more of a product of the fact that the casting times weren't fixed to begin with.

Googi 03-03-2007 11:18 PM

I don't see how heavy rods are more valuable than they were before.

Draenin 03-03-2007 11:36 PM

They aren't, really, but people will believe anything they're told nowadays it seems.

Waltz5 03-04-2007 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1284193)
They aren't, really, but people will believe anything they're told nowadays it seems.

Try running after Ed when he's using his rods (not normal casting).

protozero 03-04-2007 12:17 AM

I really don't like this new system. It's not even whatso ever in the arena, that's mostly fine. But outside the arena in Battle mode, I don't like the fact that the whole point of me having a dagger is rendered obsolete. I use to liek taking chances double slashing with my dagger sometimes landed double hits at the cost of reduced range, but now Daggers are pointless, might as well burn my Ice Dagger and use my Tainted Grace from now on.

Googi 03-04-2007 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waltz5 (Post 1284199)
Try running after Ed when he's using his rods (not normal casting).

I have and don't really find it difficult. The spells do very little to slow you down. Chasing is only hard because of the speed nerf.

MasterNuke 03-04-2007 01:32 AM

I still run slower than you. The only difference is that your ridiculous speed won't cause you to miss me when you catch up to me. Except I can't mitigate damage dealt by weapons with resistances anymore. So I'm taking full damage while my magic is still doing reduced damage due to resistances... that is if I actually get an opportunity to cast.

smirt362 03-04-2007 04:01 AM

Wouldn't it make more sense to have each weapon have it's pro's and con's and balance it all out? Or even have some sort of rock/paper/scissors sort of thing where one mode of attack has an advantage over another mode of attack.

Draenin 03-04-2007 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smirt362
Wouldn't it make more sense to have each weapon have it's pro's and con's and balance it all out? Or even have some sort of rock/paper/scissors sort of thing where one mode of attack has an advantage over another mode of attack.

Ah, the so-often-praised concept of the weapon triangle returns.

cyan3 03-04-2007 09:10 PM

This new pvp system is stupid now most of my stats can't really be used anymore.

Gothika 03-04-2007 09:16 PM

This new system is totally pointless. The only thing we need about it is the Knockback system.
Why they have nerfed speed? I havn't got a clue. NO ONE, No one at all has complained about speed in battle making people too good.

Draenin 03-04-2007 09:22 PM

It would be nice to have speed set exactly the same for everyone, but at least a little faster. The pace it's set at now is really sluggish for dodging attacks or outrunning magic / arrows. Magic and arrows move way too fast with respect to the players now.

pooper200000 03-04-2007 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1284650)
It would be nice to have speed set exactly the same for everyone, but at least a little faster. The pace it's set at now is really sluggish for dodging attacks or outrunning magic / arrows. Magic and arrows move way too fast with respect to the players now.

3.0 speed sounds likea g odo one fast but not like insanely you can still get messed up and then it makes it worthwile for rings...


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