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schnukelmaus 02-01-2007 11:36 PM

Petition: For Selection of Kingdom Leaders
 
I believe that not only I, but many others agree that having an election for kingdom leaders completely has nothing to do with the length of a rulers term, nor does it have effect on how they perform their duties. This petition is for people that agree or disagree with having staff intervention among kingdom leaders' selection. Please select yes for if you agree with having kingdom leaders selected by the resigning kingdom leader. Please select no if you believe that staff should have input whether a kingdom leader should be instated OR if you believe there should be other means.

Having said this, if this petition shall be successful, if you agree, the Samurai election shall be reconsidered and then even possibly voided. (No guarantees).

Thank you and have a great day.

Also, I would like to add that approval of kingdom leaders will still pend upon circumstances - Past ban history, pillory, scamming, etc.

Please post any comments that you may have.

jaws908 02-01-2007 11:41 PM

I agree that the former kingdom leader should be able to choose his or her Successor. It fits the time line, to what I know, of GK, in addition as far as function goes the former leader would know who to give it to and who is loyal to the kingdom, the leaders often have players do favors that are not publicly known or highly thought of, so the kingdom leaders know more about what each player did for the kingdom than staff or other players.

- that is my opinion,
Ricky Steele

Googi 02-01-2007 11:42 PM

Ugh, we don't need to give the staff that kind of power, since so far the only criteria I've seen them use is "Is it Bosh? No? It's all good then." Responsibility for this kind of thing lies with the kingdom's members, who should stand up to incompetent rulers.

Stephen 02-01-2007 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1272185)
Ugh, we don't need to give the staff that kind of power, since so far the only criteria I've seen them use is "Is it Bosh? No? It's all good then." Responsibility for this kind of thing lies with the kingdom's members, who should stand up to incompetent rulers.

I've seen nothing but the opposite - he was a serious candidate for Dustari if I understand correctly.

Googi 02-01-2007 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1272186)
I've seen nothing but the opposite - he was a serious candidate for Dustari if I understand correctly.

Nobody seems to be able to figure out what kind of staff involvement there was in that one.

ReBorn_Spirit 02-01-2007 11:47 PM

A secondary leader should normally take their place. An example would be be when you have an active Queen or Prince to choose from.

Waltz5 02-01-2007 11:52 PM

A combination of both.

There needs to be a written in stone rule about transferring leadership in a kingdom. That way, the current leader knows what steps to take. There should be some acknowledgement of why this person is fit for the job. Then it's quite simple, if they don't follow the steps they don't get what they want. The staff should have some say in this, so as people do not come out of no where with no validation for being chosen (hopefully preventing USDing the kingdom).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit
A secondary leader should normally take their place. An example would be be when you have an active Queen or Prince to choose from.

Yeah, but I wouldn't just limit it to that. Military leaders have been known to assume power.

schnukelmaus 02-01-2007 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit (Post 1272189)
A secondary leader should normally take their place. An example would be be when you have an active Queen or Prince to choose from.

This is considering the fact that you have none such as Samurai and Zormite Republic. It should be automatic that the next person of the royal ranks gets the kingdom since you trust them so.

ReBorn_Spirit 02-01-2007 11:54 PM

Considering recent events I agree with you that Samurai should have a leader and Zormite as well.. but Shelly can run Zormite, the Queen of Zormite that is.

schnukelmaus 02-01-2007 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit (Post 1272198)
Considering recent events I agree with you that Samurai should have a leader and Zormite as well.. but Shelly can run Zormite, the Queen of Zormite that is.

Tomorrow, I don't think that statement will be true.

ReBorn_Spirit 02-02-2007 12:15 AM

Perhaps it won't be, but still it is now that I was concerned with.

Sam 02-02-2007 12:23 AM

We do not accept leaders without any or a low expirience on GK. We also have to take care of get someone who is a honorable person because all citizen have to trust their leaders.

schnukelmaus 02-02-2007 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1272217)
We do not accept leaders without any or a low expirience on GK. We also have to take care of get someone who is a honorable person because all citizen have to trust their leaders.

Well, I believe Stromstedt has the approval of the Samurai citizens considering the nomination thread. Another thing, I would like to point out is that it is really unfair how Dustari does not have to go through an election and Samurai does. They have had just as many leaders or perhaps even more than Samurai within the recent time period.

EDIT: Also, in addition to this, how can we be so sure that staff or elections could help? That is possible with any situation. Completely unavoidble.

ReBorn_Spirit 02-02-2007 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1272217)
We do not accept leaders without any or a low expirience on GK. We also have to take care of get someone who is a honorable person because all citizen have to trust their leaders.

This I believe is the first step we need to think about before we can even begin to "choose" a new leader. There are certain groups that would easily choose one of their own in attempts to kill what is left of GK. We need to be carefull of what happens.

Kevin641800 02-02-2007 12:30 AM

I agree :)


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